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Thanks Lonestar, pretty funny shit. Sad but funny at the same time. Makes my job as a Tech more tolerable when I see the frustration and bullshit our guys in Iraq are putting up with. I'm at the point where we just pull our troops and give them their shit hole country back with the promiss that anytime they get out of hand, we'll be back with our jets to take away anything we don't like. Also a good reason why the people of our country should remain well armed.

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Fuck that I say mow those little bastards down. Spanking them or roughing them up will only make them hate us more and they are only gonna get older and bolder so just eliminate the future terrorists now. Why the hell do we have to play nice.

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nice.....sort of goes agains that "the Iraqi people love the US soldiers" line of BS that Rummy and shrub are pushing.

 

let me just say, i support our troops to the end for doing the job they are ordered to do.....i am just not thrilled with our order givers lately.

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I guarantee you shoot one of those fuckin hadj's there won't be any more rocks the next day...

 

Of course the same time those are some pretty shit bag whoas... why the fuck would you put that on the net... they definitely set the professional bar about as low as it will go...

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IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE CONTRACTORS OR SOLDIERS, THEY ARE AMERICANS, AND WHEN THEY GET SHOT OR BLOWN UP THEY ARE JUST AS DEAD. ANY WAY MANY OF THE "CONTRACTORS" ARE EX-MILITARY. BY THEY WAY, THE FEDS ONLY KEEP TRACK OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED. HOW MANY AMERICAN CONTRACTORS HAVE DIED? ARE THEIR LIVES SOMEHOW LESS VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTRACTORS? THERE ARE A LOT MORE AMERICANS COMITTED IN THIS WAR THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF.

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IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE CONTRACTORS OR SOLDIERS, THEY ARE AMERICANS, AND WHEN THEY GET SHOT OR BLOWN UP THEY ARE JUST AS DEAD. ANY WAY MANY OF THE "CONTRACTORS" ARE EX-MILITARY. BY THEY WAY, THE FEDS ONLY KEEP TRACK OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED. HOW MANY AMERICAN CONTRACTORS HAVE DIED? ARE THEIR LIVES SOMEHOW LESS VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTRACTORS? THERE ARE A LOT MORE AMERICANS COMITTED IN THIS WAR THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF.

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wow you obviously missed my point entirely, I have worked as a PMC AND THOSE ASSHOLES RIDING AROUND SCREAMING FU to everybody they encounter looks bad on the US military, I was pointing out that they were contractors and were present there simply because of a paycheck and not in service of their country, honor or anything else other than a paycheck. I realize they may be americans and their lives and safety are just as important as anyone else, but unlike enlisted personel they can quit their engineering job and just go home. The sole reason I pointed out they were contractors and not military personel is the childish manor in which they are acting is doing nothing but perpetuating the probelm and I didnt want anyone to be under the impression that the military personel on assignment would be riding along screaming all those childish obsenities at the locals. Yes the video is funny but at the same time it needs to be pointed out that our military personel dont generaly act like this and that the people screaming obsenities at the locals in that video are people there by their own choice and their loyalty is to that $1k a week from Hali or black water etc. If there were not any little aholes on the side of the road chunkin rocks those guys wouldnt have a job

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Hmm, and the Iraqis "baiting" the U.S. soldiers by calling them cowards to their faces (knowing darn well they wouldn't be shot while on camera) just because they took a few Iraqi women in for interrigation really that much different, panaceabeachbum? :rolleyes:

 

Don't believe me, catch that "Operation:Dreamland" special that's running this month on the Sundance channel. :ph34r:

 

Personally, I find a lot of the Iraqi civillian population to be a bunch of big whiny & bitchy crybabies myself, and every time an 82nd Abn. trooper called them a "shitlicker" or asked them (as you pointed out already) "what the f**k are you looking at?" it gave me a nice warm and fuzzy feeling inside. :angel:

 

My boys. :super:

 

I still think we should just nuke the whole f**king area and call things square. Not worth it in my estimation to risk losing another American serviceperson's life defending those ungreatful assholes. :ded:

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Great war! How many American families have lost their sons and daughters?

Why are we there? Oh thats right, because Bin Laden bombed the Twin Towers. How is Bin Laden doing lately? Pretty good I guess, since we have deployed all of our resources into Iraq instead of finding/killing Bin.

 

Again, American kids are dying and being crippled, and for what? Their families are being destroyed.

I wholeheartedly support all of the troops (not our current goverment), but this war is a huge disaster. Not only did we go after the wrong guy, we have got ourselves tied into a tar-baby. Good luck getting loose.

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Great war! How many American families have lost their sons and daughters?

Why are we there? Oh thats right, because Bin Laden bombed the Twin Towers. How is Bin Laden doing lately? Pretty good I guess, since we have deployed all of our resources into Iraq instead of finding/killing Bin.

 

Again, American kids are dying and being crippled, and for what? Their families are being destroyed.

I wholeheartedly support all of the troops (not our current goverment), but this war is a huge disaster. Not only did we go after the wrong guy, we have got ourselves tied into a tar-baby. Good luck getting loose.

 

 

Are you kidding me dude?

 

Obviously we have a subject matter expert on our hands here guys... seems like he really knows what he's talking about.

 

Ya, people are dying ok... obviously people on our side will unfortunately be casualties, sad to say but that's a given. The people in the military signed up for this shit, they knew full and well the risks and benefits when they signed up. Another thing they are not kids... they are men and women that are trained and ready to do there duty and job. Ignorance is bliss isn't it...

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Yeah, that's pretty funny coming from someone who goes under the pseudonym "snoopdogg." :lol:

 

Wonder how many young innocent kids Calvin Broadus was directly (or indirectly) involved in crippling and maiming (i.e. - Phillip Woldermarian springs to mind here) when he was rolling with his Crip homies even though he was ultimately exonerated from all charges (read :dollar: :dollar: :dollar:). :unsure:

 

Wonder if he'd be sitting in jail now if he only earned minimum wage at Burger King. :cryss:

 

I bet you he's your hero, eh Snoop? :rolleyes:

 

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Are you kidding me dude?

 

Obviously we have a subject matter expert on our hands here guys... seems like he really knows what he's talking about.

 

Ya, people are dying ok... obviously people on our side will unfortunately be casualties, sad to say but that's a given. The people in the military signed up for this shit, they knew full and well the risks and benefits when they signed up. Another thing they are not kids... they are men and women that are trained and ready to do there duty and job. Ignorance is bliss isn't it...

 

 

So, when are you joining up? Let us know how it goes over there in Iraq.

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you guys smell anything burning? it better not be a fucking cross, gaddis.

 

I dont know if that is the tone of voice you were trying to put across, but watch it. that road is a dead end in this forum. it ALWAYS goes downhill from there. I hear you about the crips and all, but I think the tone in which you put it across might be taken the wrong way.

 

 

TO GET BACK TO THE TOPIC - I see nobody made the observation that whoever it was driving the trucks, was driving a TANKER truck, which the iraqis were told for YEARS was what we wanted from them. the people dont know if it is water or oil, but no matter what you write on there or tell them, they only see the west coming and driving off with thier black gold for free. we should watch it, because those people are poor and dont have all that much because saddam didnt do the right thing and share the wealth of the country with his people. among other things.

 

that country should go to the native american indians and see how they handle thier casino profits, and do the exact same friggin thing. I bet if the USA backed something like THAT, and worked to get the iraqi government do that (how that would happen, who knows, with big business and all), I bet you those people would be happier than any one in the middle east, and I bet the terrorists and insurgents over there would be HARD PRESSED to find new recruits to brainwash. when you cant even afford bread for yourself, nevermind your family, I think that you might do just about anything, and believe just about anyone that "helps" you and your family just to survive starvation or what have you.

 

I dunno, thats what I thought when I saw the video, as well as my previous comment.

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Naw, I don't have a prejudiced bone in my body, Bvamp. :lol:

 

But I (like you), have a strong dislike for these rich suburban middle class "white wonder" kids with their fake "street thug" credibility names who come in here spouting their liberal college drivel. I almost hate them more than the original thug element types who after living a worthless existance of crapping all over the honest citizenry then turn around and make money off the stupid white kids who are somehow impressed that they can slap their 'ho's around whenever they want and know how to steal shit rather than going out and busting a little sweat earning it instead. :wacko:

 

I do give Snoop here some credit though. Even though I support the United States Military service branches 100%, I really don't know (like Snoop) why George, Jr. is so worried about what's happening in Iraq when he should be more worried about getting more troops in Afganistan and finding (and ultimatley dealing with Osama). :ded:

 

Then he can worry about cleaning up places like Iran and North Korea. :killer:

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well, I see that as a TREND, myself, that caught on with the kids after I left high school. Im 33, and I think that I am near the youngest of generation X. what came next even I cant believe. Im still amazed at the differences between when I went to school and the schools now.

 

I am a Conservative Republican, and I agree with Lil Georgie, just so you know. As you may have discovered, when you elect the Conservative Party into office, we WILL GIT ER DUN. yeh, it might not be too sexy and probably sloppy at the same time, but its done. It is a much more strategic point of operation than Afganistan ever was, to boot. MAYBE, just MAYBE there is a reason. Dont forget saddam was paying people to blow themselves up. what was it? 25,000 US$ to your family after you did it??? wasnt THAT the reward? for lack of a better way to work out the time, I THINK it was RIGHT AFTER 9/11 that he put that bounty up. hmmmm. no, we didnt need to go in THERE, did we?? you people make me nuts sometimes, you know that? fuck saddam and his regime and all those so-called "god message carriers" that the terrorists think they are. they are the scourge of humanity and are the only ones deserving of being lined up and shot into a ditch. most definately, not thier victims. I know God never told ME to go kill a heathen or infadel. God told us all, as far as I understand most religeons, to turn the other cheek, but not lay down when you are forced down and out by the bad one. that does not in any way shape or form mean to me, and Im sure none of you reading this, to go blow myself up to feed my mother. how shameful of an act is that? I guess when you are desperate and destitute (not free), anything looks better. I believe that (I know you military people know this one) we are ALL green. ultimately, we are really all the same color. human. we all look, talk, act, speak, different, but that is the real beauty of it all, now isnt it?

 

sorry, but THAT is fucking war Gaddis. any way you slice it. Im glad we went and are there. hopefully, we can do more for the world and everyone, and maybe even enough for ourself, that we will continue to be the greatest nation on earth for many decades or more to come.

 

I think some things are being handled in the wrong manner, but I am not a 4 star general, so I cant do shit about it. I am glad that so far, that we havent ABANDONED these people. remember, they have been dictated over for so long, they just do what they are told, and have not been allowed to openly THINK FREELY for a LONG LONG time. anyone under how old? never even knew what it was like. how exactly do you expect them to act?

 

we arent putting up a good impression, I tell you what. this culture of people takes personal disrespect seriously, remember.

 

I just wanted to be crystal clear with you Gaddis, seeing how you are a long time member as well as a contributer here. I also think that Iran may offer us peace with them....ONCE. for a long time. I hope its done right, and we go for it....

 

 

 

 

sorry about the rant folks.

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Hmm, even though I agree with you 100% on most of the points you made, Bvamp, I believe that we are at the brink of seeing the end of the United States as a respected world superpower nation (that, along with a few of the Amemdments being trashed (1st and 2nd come to mind here)).

 

Truth is, most of the rest of the world hates us (even though we usually try to do the right thing) because (like Snoop demonstrated here) there seems to be a big liberal values trend sweeping the globe.

 

Not saying having a liberal values system is a good thing (or necessarily very intelligent) when you see American college kids indoctrinated by their former anti-war Hippie teachers to believe that the United States Military establishment is nothing but a boodthirsty, tyrannical entity forcing it's views on defenseless countries (like Afganistan & Iraq) while these same college kids show no shame in flying a Che Guevara flag in their college dorm room (after all, how many innocent Cuban lives snuffed out was that butcher responsible for?). :rolleyes:

 

Sorry for getting off track myself here (and sorry if I came off sounding like I was racist in earlier postings). I'm just tired lately of reading all of "let's crap on the United States" news reported lately by the (liberal?) media and even on people living in this countrys personal blogs, and then seeing U.S. Military bashing seeming to be going on right in the forum here. :angry:

 

I'll try to behave in the future and not stir the pot so much. :lol:

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IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY ARE CONTRACTORS OR SOLDIERS, THEY ARE AMERICANS, AND WHEN THEY GET SHOT OR BLOWN UP THEY ARE JUST AS DEAD. ANY WAY MANY OF THE "CONTRACTORS" ARE EX-MILITARY. BY THEY WAY, THE FEDS ONLY KEEP TRACK OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS KILLED. HOW MANY AMERICAN CONTRACTORS HAVE DIED? ARE THEIR LIVES SOMEHOW LESS VALUABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONTRACTORS? THERE ARE A LOT MORE AMERICANS COMITTED IN THIS WAR THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF.

Tim M

 

Tim you might find this link intresting.

List of Contractor deaths in Iraq, 2003-2006. http://icasualties.org/oif/Civ.aspx

 

Below is the name of a man on that list ,who was my former Marine sqad leader and friend.

(07-May-2005 Venette, Todd, American, Car Bomb, Baghdad, Security Contractor CTU Consulting). While in the USMC I served with Todd in Iraq during OIF/2003 and he knew the risk when he signed up to be a contractor.

 

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(panaceabeachbum: "I was pointing out that they were contractors and were present there simply because of a paycheck and not in service of their country, honor or anything else other than a paycheck".)

 

Their lives are just as valuable as yours and military personel. Serving and fighting for God and Country is very honorable. War is ugly, when bullets come down range, patriotism or money goes out the window and the only thing your fighting for is the lives of fellow warriors next to you and to come home at the end of the day. If your are going to be putting your life in harms way outside of the military/Country, then you had better get something in return (such as a PAYCHECK).

 

Without PMC's there would be no security forces to protect the people who are risking there lives working in high risk areas. Just like any organization there will always be the handfull of blacksheep who cause problems and make the rest of us look bad.

 

In no way am I trying to flame anyone on this form who have been mislead about PMC's.But there are some of you who need to get your facts straight.

 

Have a nice day.

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speaking for a minority of people in college...i have no problem working to get what i want in life.....and i do have problems watching my neighbors across the street who are almost too fat too move breeding and producing the next welfare generation who takes in stray cats, lets them crap on our porch then calls the cops on me when i take out an airsoft to remove said cat from my porch...

 

 

wow..umm sorry about that just a bit bitter...point is some of college kids still work for what we want, not just bitch

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The problem I have with the media coverage is how it is obviously agenda driven from either side. One news show or movie, whatever will show it as the Iraqis hate us and show all the bad stuff. Then another will show how all of them love us etc. You have to remeber that the Iraqis are just a group of people and people within that group will have different ideas, just like here (both on the board and in the US). There are groups that despise Americans over there and there are groups that love us. But the truth lies somewhere in between usually and I hardly see any of that. IMO the american media is terrible and loves to jump to conclusions (Duke rape case anybody?). I just want the facts, not facts with a bunch of agenda added. I feel I am smart enough to come to my own conclusion.

 

BTW I do feel we needed to go to Iraq for many reasons, not just including terrorism links (which there are). The middle east has been one screwed up place that needed some sort of intervention for quite some time. We (as in the govenrment) tried to ignore it for a while, but 9/11 made us realize we can't bury our heads in the sand any more. A-stan was a quick retaliatory strike (kinda like the beginning of WWII afetr pearl harbor), but we definately needed to do more than just swat the mosquito that bit us. We had to fight the heart of the problem which was not in A-stan (the reason Al Queda exists in the first place). The heart is not just one country, but we needed a nice central location to work from and Saddam gave us a handy reason and it just so happens to be right next door to another country that has been screwing with us for years, Iran.

 

There are other more thoughtful reasons, but IMO the war in Iraq was a tactical decision on the whole war on terror thing. It puts our presence out there, it shows we aren't screwing around, and it puts us within striking distance of other coutnries that might need it (Iran, Syria, etc). IMO our projection of power paid off as not too long after the opening of the operations in Iraq ole Qaddafi sort of gave up out of nowhere and turned all of his weapons projects, including nuclear ones.

 

Brutal dictators know one thing, power. Anything else is cowardice in their eyes (one reason I think we are doing the wrong thing with Iran right now). Qaddafi STFU after Reagan blew up his house and killed his family. That let him know we weren't fucking around. I think something like that should happen in Iran. Without warning just blow up all areas where that stupid president and the ayatollahs might be. Even if we don't get them all it will show them that we aren't fucking around any more.

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Heh, that's how the Jews sucessfully handle things when someone from that area of the world decides to f**k with them. :killer::super:

 

Never going to happen over here though, too many "pansies" occupy or are in charge of the American defense system. :angry:

 

I have a feeling the "softness" we see today in this country surfaced soon after it was okay to come out of the closet. :rolleyes:

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