shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) nm... Edited January 18, 2010 by post-apocalyptic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
photoshooter 5 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I finally have my Saiga x39 "Sporter" to the point where I am satisfied - excepting the HG, which is a change down the road Looks very nice! I'm in a similar situation; I'll be keeping the stock HG when I do my conversion with the intention of changing it somewhere down the road. In the meantime you've certainly made it look very nice. Any tips for cutting the vent holes? I have a drill press, router table etc and could probably come up with a good way to do it but I also stand a good chance of screwing it up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailor 6 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 photoshooter - the HG vents were actually quite easy to lay out and cut, except for the hand work of finishing by file. I used a strip of vinyl tape on each side, to lay out the location of the initial drill holes. Stay away from the embedded steel at the ends. I drilled a hole at each end of a vent, then a center hole between, then some file work to rough out the holes. Finally, I routed the holes using just the original bit in a drill press. Last, I filed the hole edges to smooth and radius them, and used magic marker to get the full black on the cut areas. Pretty simple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) SGL21 (yes.. it's 922r compliant) Edited January 19, 2010 by micah360 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jbrubaker 13 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Holy smokes, Micah. That thing looks sweeeet.... Did you finish the furniture yourself? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Holy smokes, Micah. That thing looks sweeeet.... Did you finish the furniture yourself? thanks... I like it too. The furniture is all new. The butt was re-finished (by Z Recto over at the AKforum) to match the handguards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 So, micah360, you mentioned that all that wooden furniture is "new". By that, do you mean it's all US-made, or is some of it foreign? Regardless, that's one sweet lookin rifle ya got there. I'm not old-school enough to want to spend the money and time on a stockset from Ironwood, nor do I want to play the 922r game with mags etc in order to be able to use some good n cheap foreign wood furniture. So... I just leave the US plum furniture, (except for the pg), on my SGL21. It might not look quite as nice, but it's durable as hell and still looks pretty damn good imo. A recent change I made to my SGL21 that I recommend was to replace the Arsenal fcg with a Tapco G2. ymmv, but the long pull of the Arsenal trigger really annoyed me. I much prefer the G2. It allows for more rapid fire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) So, micah360, you mentioned that all that wooden furniture is "new". By that, do you mean it's all US-made, or is some of it foreign? Regardless, that's one sweet lookin rifle ya got there. I'm not old-school enough to want to spend the money and time on a stockset from Ironwood, nor do I want to play the 922r game with mags etc in order to be able to use some good n cheap foreign wood furniture. So... I just leave the US plum furniture, (except for the pg), on my SGL21. It might not look quite as nice, but it's durable as hell and still looks pretty damn good imo. A recent change I made to my SGL21 that I recommend was to replace the Arsenal fcg with a Tapco G2. ymmv, but the long pull of the Arsenal trigger really annoyed me. I much prefer the G2. It allows for more rapid fire It's a Russian AK74 laminate stock set (not cheap). When I say "new", I mean that it's never been fitted to a rifle (or hardly even handled for that matter). But, it's not "off the assembly line new". It's probably been sitting in a crate somewhere in Europe or Russia for God knows how many years before I got my grubby little American hands on it. Edited January 20, 2010 by micah360 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 So, micah360, you mentioned that all that wooden furniture is "new". By that, do you mean it's all US-made, or is some of it foreign? Regardless, that's one sweet lookin rifle ya got there. I'm not old-school enough to want to spend the money and time on a stockset from Ironwood, nor do I want to play the 922r game with mags etc in order to be able to use some good n cheap foreign wood furniture. So... I just leave the US plum furniture, (except for the pg), on my SGL21. It might not look quite as nice, but it's durable as hell and still looks pretty damn good imo. A recent change I made to my SGL21 that I recommend was to replace the Arsenal fcg with a Tapco G2. ymmv, but the long pull of the Arsenal trigger really annoyed me. I much prefer the G2. It allows for more rapid fire It's a Russian AK74 laminate stock set (not cheap). When I say "new", I mean that it's never been fitted to a rifle (or hardly even handled for that matter). But, it's not "off the assembly line new". It's probably been sitting in a crate somewhere in Europe or Russia for God knows how many years before I got my grubby little American hands on it. Ah, I see. So it's pretty rare, (much more so than all that Bulgarian wood furniture available), and extremely nice furniture. If I put a set like that on my rifle she'd probably end up a safe queen, as I wouldn't be able to abide the thought of scratches/dings on that wood, which is inevitable over time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailor 6 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 photoshooter, or anyone else into venting the stock Saiga HG. A photo that is a bit cleaner to use as a reference for drilling, etc. Still trying to locate some appropriate insulating cloth or tape that may help prevent any chance of melting of the stock HG. Some day! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janusthephoenix 24 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Very nice looking rifle, micah! I don't believe I have ever seen a 7.62 magazine in bakelite before! (Or whatever that is...looks awesome regardless) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
photoshooter 5 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 photoshooter, or anyone else into venting the stock Saiga HG. A photo that is a bit cleaner to use as a reference for drilling, etc. Still trying to locate some appropriate insulating cloth or tape that may help prevent any chance of melting of the stock HG. Some day! Thanks Sailor! Very cool of you to post the detail shot. Doesn't look too difficult. I'll give it a try and post pics if it works. If I screw up I'll just deny everything! ------------ Micah... that is one very nice AK! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
micah360 6 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Very nice looking rifle, micah! I don't believe I have ever seen a 7.62 magazine in bakelite before! (Or whatever that is...looks awesome regardless) thanks. yep... it's a 7.62 Izhmash bakelite 30 rounder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SBL 0 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Agreed... Micah, that's one heck of a nice looking rifle. Here's mine; I'm considering replacing the stock and PG, and maybe fitting a quadrail. Sights are Yankee Hill flip-ups with homemade rail adapters. I was also thinking about sticking a LER 1-4X red-dot on the Ultimak rail, but these don't seem to exist. I may have to go with a Strikefire or something... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xjedix 6 Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carlrodd 0 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 (edited) new arsenal conversion with midwest industries rail, cheapy tapco fore-grip, and romanian wire folder. i love the look of the wire folders, but i am thinking an ACE folder would be much more suitable.....don't know if i can justify the outrageous expense though. also plan to eventually add a reasonably-priced, quality red dot. out of the box, this gun was so beautiful, i almost didn't want to touch it. arsenal has really done a beautiful, quality job. Edited January 22, 2010 by carlrodd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nictra 2 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Here's 2 of mine I did. The 1st one I had a local smith do the machining for the side folder, but I installed everything else. Was a 20", and I had him cut and crown it also. this one is just a basic conversion. It now sports a 74 style rear stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave 1 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Nice stuff from micah and nictra! Fuckin beautiful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Micah360, xjedix and nictra: Great looking rifles! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
afibstew 0 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I posted pic of my Saiga a couple of weeks ago, and was considering converting it. But I can't bring myself to do it. I like the look of the wood too much. I have searched around and can't find another like it. It was made in '99. I'm pretty sure it has never been fired. So I guess I'm stuck with having to buy another one, probably 16 in bbl. to convert. I'm not one to sell my firearms. To me, this is a SWEET looking firearm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CBHanlock 1 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 (edited) Well here is my 7.62, it is actualy a romy G kit build. I had never seen a snow cammo AK so here is my idea on how it should look. If you take your time, you can make some really wild looking rifles with Duracoat and the best bart is, you can treat them poorly and the duracoat holds its own. Edited January 26, 2010 by Sasquatch 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CBHanlock 1 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Here is another shot of her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) My "tacti-cool" Arsenal SGL21-66, pimped out with the following components: Hogue AK Grip Krebs Enhanced AK Selector Lever CAA Vertical Folding Grip Midwest Industries AK Quad Rail (came installed on this model of the gun) Ergo Pressure Switch Mount CAA Rail Covers Belarus PK-AS collimator scope. K-Var Bulgarian AK bayo. Some cheap-ass non-LED flashlight (going to replace it soon) Tromix bold-on charging handle Going to put some kind of a folder on it in the future. Edited January 30, 2010 by SpetsnazGRU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryancreek 2 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Man there are some nice looking Saiga's on here. Love that woodland/snow camo one above. Just did my first conversion and it was easier than I thought it would be thanks to Dinzag. It's nice to be fully legal and 922r compliant. Edited January 30, 2010 by ryancreek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
photoshooter 5 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Arsenal SGL20 in plum and it's soon-to-be-converted Saiga x39 dimpled cousin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JIMMYR 0 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 My Arsenal SGL21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davswn1986 7 Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 My saiga conversion so far. Tapco t-6 stock Tapco galil handguard Tapco sling system UTG Clamp on bi pod Nothing done to internals yet but will when i stop worrying about messing up my rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Put a Bulgarian triangle folder and a Krink style flash-hider on mine now: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
n102788 6 Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) This is mine for now. ***DUE TO CHANGE**** Edited February 8, 2010 by n102788 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigsal 757 Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 New addition to the collection: 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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