jatok 1 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hi folks, new on this site. My humble contribution: Saiga M3 and friends Norinco 7.62x39 to 9x19 modifications: http://www.toiminta-ampujat.fi/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=3662 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Wow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Two thumbs up for enginuity! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Wow, you guys never cease to amaze!! That is absolutely AWESOME!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Wellcome to the forum. Here is some info if you guys interested. http://www.lichtenbergresearch.com/ Edited December 18, 2006 by vjor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye008 2 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 That is awesome! Is that a suomi drum that it runs on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Great! But how do you carry that CONCEALED? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted December 20, 2006 Report Share Posted December 20, 2006 --> QUOTE(G O B @ Dec 18 2006, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Great! But how do you carry that CONCEALED? replace NLFD with stick mag, add scary black trenchcoat whip it out on some old milk jugs and watch them shake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAC_TEK 0 Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Found this link on page 5 check it out! http://www.lichtenbergresearch.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brain3278 1 Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Two thumbs up for enginuity! That is Sweet! Wish I had the tools to build one. Does anyone sell those? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Holy shit! WOW is right! I want to go to Finland on my next vacation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter78 1 Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Sweeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I had the talent to do that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hm,wonder if I could get by with that and my CCW! I guess the AR and AK pistols are indeed that,pistols! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jatok 1 Posted January 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 Hi folks. The picture of that tiny 9mm. saiga conversion was not mine. My project is not advancing since i already ruined two Suomi smg-barrels. Still searching for a new one.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKOK 4 Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) Hi folks. The picture of that tiny 9mm. saiga conversion was not mine. My project is not advancing since i already ruined two Suomi smg-barrels. Still searching for a new one.. Yeah...thats one of azhonky's guns...he post over at gunsnet in the AK pistol forum. That piece is not that hard to assemble. Someone makes the magwell and barrel sleeve that you can purchase. Get a Suomi kit and a reciever and throw that baby together. Of coarse the charge handle moved to the left side requires a higher skill level as well as the detail in the forarm....the basic build is straight forward though. Edited January 7, 2007 by akok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jatok 1 Posted January 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I´ve learned (almost) all about 9mm. Saiga conversion from these great (American) sites: http://lichtenbergresearch.com/ and http://www.gunsnet.net/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Hm,wonder if I could get by with that and my CCW! I guess the AR and AK pistols are indeed that,pistols! Are you limited to just pistols? I know in my state I can carry anything, and not just one at a time Whereas some states limit your CCW permit to cover by serial number the gun you took your class with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Reverendfranz 160 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Ive seen the Lichtenberg Research website a few times, but never really considered building one, mostly because im not a big fan of 9mm, and i kinda like the looks of the regular soumi better than the ak version, if i just had some parts laying around, id probably build a soumi instead. (i know, i shouldnt say things like that on such a kalishnocentric forum) The one in that thread looks nice though, probably a pretty good source of information (even if i cant read any of the captions) What i want to know, and what ive been thinking of for a couple weeks is what would be involved in building a .45acp ak, i cant imagine it would be that much different in design from that one. Possible sources for parts could be mags from say a grease gun, i know they used to be pretty cheap and plenty. or if you wanted new mags, maybe the hk ump. (the only drums i know of would be thompson, and while that would be nice, im not made of money...) You would probably have to make a mag well and feed ramp. Any ideas on a cheap (or effective) source of barrels? As far as the gunsmithing, the other problem would be the gas piston, i know the 9mm aks are just blowback, right? would a .45 be the same way, or could you sensitize the gas system enough to reliably cycle? probably not on a short barrel, i know. Im not sure i would really call it an AK if it doesnt have a gas system anymore, though it still looks nice. Anyone know what you would have to do to the bolt and bolt carrier? im not even sure how you get the cartridge size right, as far as extractors and all that. I dont mean to hijack the thread, if you want i can make a new thread. Heres a quick and shody photoshop i made a day or two ago, not sure if proportions are exact, but you know... If grease gun mags were used, it would probably work better with the mag at a full 90 to the reciever, though i know Special Weapons made a .45 mp5 clone that had a slanted magwell and took grease gun mags, probbably all about the feedramp. Certainly im not the first person to think of this, anyone see or hear of one? any advice on finding out more, sources of information, reading recomendations, anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jatok 1 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 soumi Have to correct.. It is Suomi. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 soumi Have to correct.. It is Suomi. I had a hunch i was spelling it wrong. Thanks. ~hides head in shame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Telly458 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 AK-Builder.com sells this suomi adapter for $40 at thier site,with installation instructions,no less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jatok 1 Posted February 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Almost finished.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted February 16, 2007 Report Share Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) Anyone consider taking some 7.62x39 brass and hogging it out to 9x39? Then make a 9x39 carbine? The 9mm sub gun chamber would need reaming to accommodate the extra length and the shape, or a custom AK barrel would do, but I bet one of the smarties here could do it. From what I've seen at the TULA website they have something like that... Edited February 16, 2007 by MD_Willington Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 9x39mm sounds like an amazing subgun caliber. Also, I have to assume it would require a lot less modification to get that round to feed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Turns out they make one already, called the VAL, also they have an AK-9 shown here: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayanx 1 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I have a sneaking suspicion that you guys are the reason the Patriot act was enacted in the 1st place... *sigh* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 0 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I have a sneaking suspicion that you guys are the reason the Patriot act was enacted in the 1st place... *sigh* oh damn i thought it was the land mines in my front yard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 0 Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 9x39mm sounds like an amazing subgun caliber. Also, I have to assume it would require a lot less modification to get that round to feed. *the wheels are turning* so if you can do this on a 7.62x39 then is possible on a .308? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Well Izhmash makes a couple 9x39mm rifles already. They're both silenced and I've only heard very very bad things about Russian silencers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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