Azrial 1,091 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 AGP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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fortyacres 0 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 I voted Surefire, because I have more of them than the AGP's. The surefires have been more available and cheaper from where I order. I like the AGP mags too. I just have less of them. The surefire 8's are really nice. I only have 50 rounds through my assorted mags, so not a lot of first hand XP. But I seem to have voted with my wallet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ERG80 0 Posted March 27, 2009 Report Share Posted March 27, 2009 Surefire 12 because they're relatively inexpensive and can be cut down to other sizes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 I have a Pro Mag ten rounder and an AGP mag. The Pro Mag hand cycles smoothly but I haven't shot with it yet. The AGP had to be worked with a fired Russian steel case to smooth out the rough spots now it feeds flawlessly. The Pro Mag needed the least work to fit to the S-12 and all the magazines I have needed to be fitted including the Taiwanese five rounders. I would like to see a US made ten rounder either by Pro Mag or AGP, I don't have magazines made by Surefire so I can't comment on them. I like both Pro Mag and AGP and both have good customer service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rd99fxdl 17 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I've got a few Surefires,an AGP and a Promag. Of the three my Surefires rank the highest.I have had no problems at all with them,but both the AGP and the Promag have feed issues and had to be fitted. My vote goes to Surefire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyfantasy2000 68 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) I have 2 AGP's and 1 Promag. The AGP's have never had any problems at all and work flawlessly. I have to slap the bottom of the Promag after every round and then rack the bolt to get it to feed. Good thing I was in the USMC ... Tap rack bang! :lolol: Edit: I realize only the Marines on the forum will understand that one. Edited April 1, 2009 by dannyfantasy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RABIDFOX50 6 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 (edited) I have 2 AGP's and 1 Promag. The AGP's have never had any problems at all and work flawlessly. I have to slap the bottom of the Promag after every round and then rack the bolt to get it to feed. Good thing I was in the USMC ... Tap rack bang! :lolol: Edit: I realize only the Marines on the forum will understand that one. Tap (the mag) Rack (the slide / action to strip out the bad round and feed another) Bang (pull the trigger, if it goes bang you are GTG) How did I do? I just ordered 2 AGPs from the main E-store here. Can't wait to get them and try em out. Only exp. I have is with the factory 5s and a Surefire 12rnd I moded to 8rnd. So far they are great. Edited April 2, 2009 by RABIDFOX50 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannyfantasy2000 68 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I have 2 AGP's and 1 Promag. The AGP's have never had any problems at all and work flawlessly. I have to slap the bottom of the Promag after every round and then rack the bolt to get it to feed. Good thing I was in the USMC ... Tap rack bang! :lolol: Edit: I realize only the Marines on the forum will understand that one. Tap (the mag) Rack (the slide / action to strip out the bad round and feed another) Bang (pull the trigger, if it goes bang you are GTG) How did I do? I just ordered 2 AGPs from the main E-store here. Can't wait to get them and try em out. Only exp. I have is with the factory 5s and a Surefire 12rnd I moded to 8rnd. So far they are great. Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. Haha The Marine Corps is not nearly as complicated as they like to think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patriot12 11 Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 I have 2 AGP's and 1 Promag. The AGP's have never had any problems at all and work flawlessly. I have to slap the bottom of the Promag after every round and then rack the bolt to get it to feed. Good thing I was in the USMC ... Tap rack bang! :lolol: Edit: I realize only the Marines on the forum will understand that one. Tap (the mag) Rack (the slide / action to strip out the bad round and feed another) Bang (pull the trigger, if it goes bang you are GTG) How did I do? I just ordered 2 AGPs from the main E-store here. Can't wait to get them and try em out. Only exp. I have is with the factory 5s and a Surefire 12rnd I moded to 8rnd. So far they are great. Yeah, you pretty much nailed it. Haha The Marine Corps is not nearly as complicated as they like to think. I voted for the 12rs surefire so that I can cut it down to 8rds. I do believe that a steel lip on a mag is more of a draw back instead of a plus. I went into detail in my Live fire AAR thread as to the reasons for this. Those steel lips can also come off. I had one come off on a promag as I was trying to fit it to my saiga. The bolt carrier came into contact with it and removed it. I see it as one more thing that can fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnydazegunsmithing 42 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 i like the surefire 12 and have had no problem with mine , i like the md20 drums but they make the gun way to front heavy and hard to bump fire . so if i could only have one id take the surefire 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brigon20 0 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Surefire 12, in truth haven't tried the others, but they have been 100% reliable through 200+ round of cheap fed bulk so far (stock gun). I ran some Buckshot and Slugs through them; haven't, tried any 3". 1 FTF but it wasn't mags fault shell was.. deformed . With its length, the vertical grip gets in its way if i try and Bang it out on reload, (only tried it a couple times once i cut down the grip I'm gonna be trying it a lot more) but the grip's kinda long for my hand anyway so no biggy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tushisvet 2 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) In 12 gauge Izhmash 8 round for standart Saiga Molot 8 round with self-made changes for Saiga with well Best magazines for everything. For me it is easier to change magazines, than to have problems with 10 rounds. Also theese magazines aren't long and I can shoot lying on ground with out any troubles. Edited May 11, 2009 by Tushisvet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I finally got to shoot my S-12 for the first time Saturday afternoon. You can keep your steenking sticks. You can have my MD Arms 20 round drum when you pry it from my cold dead fingers! We don't need no steenking sticks!! I put 190 rounds through it with steeks and drums. Drums rule! My shoulder is bruised and sore. But its a good kind of sore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 "...it hurts so good!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dae.edorian 12 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 well, I took the poll to heart and got an AGP 10 round as my first after market mag. It locked right up, although it's a bit tighter than my 2 factory fives. a 100 round federal wally world pack later, and no stoppages whatsoever. Next stop: MD20. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justinmcmillion 77 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I hate to go against the general consensus but I have the AGP 10rd and the surefire 12 (13rd). The AGP after very few mag changes developed a little front to back slop, the mag actually rocks a bit in the receiver. With the surefire Ive had 0 problems with and actually fit my receiver better. You can also cut the surefire to whatever capacity you wish as the 13 rd capacity is a little long at 18"s. So it can be a 13, 10, 8, 5 and 3 I believe? Just my opinion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 currently we have 14 retards voting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I used Sure Fire 13s exclusively in a tactical shotgun match last Saturday they ran great pretty much like my AGP 10s but with 3 more rounds I did have my AGPs for back up. Just in case! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Hefe 0 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Any reason only surefire makes the "donkey dong" 12 rounders and AGP hasn't ventured there??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 currently we have 14 retards voting I like you already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I voted AGP. I've got one ProMag that needed work just to fit into my S12, and needed the follower "corked". Once I send it back, and get the "Gen. 2" version, I'll see how I like the ProMag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDarkHorse 216 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 currently we have 14 retards voting Or one posting... I'm waiting on 4 Promags to arrive on Monday. Here's the way I see it: Cameron Hadley of Chaos posted some pictures of a S12 that he fixed up for his nephew's 13th birthday. In those pictures were several very nice items that Chaos makes as well as some other quality items. Overall, a very nice setup. And, inserted in the S12....yep....you guessed it.....a Promag 10rd'er. Now if Cam thinks the Promag is good enough for his nephew, then it's good enough for me. If I have any issues with them, I'll get them exchanged. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Anyone else see that AGP now sells 6 and 8 round mags? (And no, I'm not talking about cutting them down. They actually make them now.) It was news to me when I found out this morning. (They also make AR lowers now. Pretty good looking lowers actually.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) Anyone else see that AGP now sells 6 and 8 round mags? (And no, I'm not talking about cutting them down. They actually make them now.) It was news to me when I found out this morning. (They also make AR lowers now. Pretty good looking lowers actually.) Its news to me. Sweet, just looked. Now we can have 2,5,6,8,10, or 12 round stick mags depending on brand and size. Thats a lot of flavors. Edited July 25, 2009 by Nailbomb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krusader 1 Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 The question was.."if you could have only ONE US MADE MAGAZINE". Yes, I CAN read and comprehend, Cobra. ONE US made mag, then as many RUSSIAN as I want. I hope this helps clarify things for you. LOL thats great I was about to say the same thing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VWBeamer 1 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 What's wrong with the 8 surefire ?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmetsu 17 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 I am sticking to 5rnd or 8rnd mags. The 10s look too long and bulky. Any legality issues with making your own mag? I have ideas for hacking something together but wanted to make sure that I would not end up in club-Fed. I am an AZ resident, so we have no upper limit on mag capacities. I know that Alliance said that they were making only the backplates for the 20ga drums to cover their butts in the event of an upcoming ban, so do the mags need to be stamped somehow to indicate date of manufacture and in addition, do you have to be licensed in order for your markings to have any merit? I am a hell of a do-it-yourselfer, but I would rather not be tasked with writting a club-Fed survival book! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SELFDEFENSE 2 Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 ProMag 10 round? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cskinner2144 12 Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 (edited) When I bought my Saiga I purchased 2 ProMag 10 round mags with it. Soon as I got home I found out that neither one would even fit in the gun. So I had to shave the mags to make them fit. Then I took them to the range and fired a few rounds to try them out. They failed to load on almost every shot. I adjusted the stock gas plug, and even tried 3 different types of ammo. Nothing. Upon further inspection the shells are sticking in side the mag. The follower was not pushing them right. I became frustrated having spent $100 for two pieces of crap. I did a little reading and everyone (for the most part) was saying that the Surefire mags were better. I gave them a chance. Bought a Surefire 12 round mag. Straight from the pack, no mods, worked perfectly. I love Surefire. I will be buying more of these. I recently changed out the stock gas plug to the MD Arms 4 setting plug. I tried the ProMag mags again hoping that better gas control would help with the F.T.L. ....No Joy! Still jamming up. It is the follower inside the mags. So my vote is for Surefire! Edited August 31, 2009 by cskinner2144 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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