chevyman097 2,579 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 lol I had to.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 LOL I know, but I'm giving up. If this seems like a good idea to you, I'm not even sure where to start. Man, I sure hope the emoticons I put here don't look like I agree with the JB weld idea. I sure hope you are agreeing with me that this is a dumb idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KU_MechE 0 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 if you can't drill & tap, you shouldn't modify a firearm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 FWIW, If I had a conversion done professionally and the B.G. was J.B.'d... I'd be P.O.ed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted April 6, 2010 Report Share Posted April 6, 2010 JB Weld the BG in place, use it for a drill guide, drill & tap the trunnion, and then use the screw too. Belt and suspenders. Why bother using a nut for a drill guide if the BG can serve the same purpose? If it ever starts to loosen, just tighten the screw. That works too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mossberg Man 1 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well as a well known member of this forum put it best.....Thanks Stansplace! No offense to anyone I am just standing my ground. I will let everyone know how it goes, and thank you all for making my initiation into this forum a great one. I am looking forward to many more debates with everyone here. It is nice to meet a group of people who are like me and are willing to stand their ground and voice their opinion, let the sheep gather elsewhere!!...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well as a well known member of this forum put it best.....Thanks Stansplace! No offense to anyone I am just standing my ground. I will let everyone know how it goes, and thank you all for making my initiation into this forum a great one. I am looking forward to many more debates with everyone here. It is nice to meet a group of people who are like me and are willing to stand their ground and voice their opinion, let the sheep gather elsewhere!!...lol Yep, that is pretty much my opinion too. I love it! I also like it when a man walks his own path, even if he is wrong. I have been there and done that. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mossberg Man 1 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Stansplace I knew if anyone here would understand you would!...lol Like I said thank you to all who have posted I will certainly post updates as I move forward with my unorthodox conversion!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I for one was by no means trying to rip on ya for it... Just sharing the best knowledge I have to share...Because I want your gun to be the best gun for you... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Man, I sure hope the emoticons I put here don't look like I agree with the JB weld idea. I sure hope you are agreeing with me that this is a dumb idea. Yeah man, I got it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mossberg Man 1 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I for one was by no means trying to rip on ya for it... Just sharing the best knowledge I have to share...Because I want your gun to be the best gun for you... Nope I did not think you were trying to rip on me one bit, if I was not ready for the good, the bad, and the ugly I would not have posted my question. I took all of the answers weighed them out did my research and made my decision. No problems or worries here at all, that is why I thanked everyone for their input. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 You can always add the screw later if you want JB wont prevent that may even help. We all have things we are particular about, mines cleaning so I buy rifles that really don't depend on being clean to function and even the gas piston looks new. Think uncle sam gave me that bit of OCB but now I can clean an AK in twice in a few minutes right there at the range, once with Windex to remove the salts then a normal cleaning. The AR guys get real curious as I still run into people who just never saw an AK up close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsc91 9 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'm looking forward to hearing your results. Good on you for testing this out, I'm hoping you go through a lot of rounds for your experiment with success. With that being said, I would not reach for a rifle with JBW when things go bump in the night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dang guys hes not going to put the whole rifle together with it just a bullet guide that might possibly be held in place with bubble gum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mossberg Man 1 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dang guys hes not going to put the whole rifle together with it just a bullet guide that might possibly be held in place with bubble gum. Oh shit bubble gum I never even thought of that!! Forget threading the barrel (found out today mine is not threaded) I will chew a bunch of Hubba bubba and then jam it into the muzzlebreak and jam it on the end I figure the first round will clear out any residual gum still in the barrel...Rhodes thanks for the tip you are the man!! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mossberg Man 1 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I'm looking forward to hearing your results. Good on you for testing this out, I'm hoping you go through a lot of rounds for your experiment with success. With that being said, I would not reach for a rifle with JBW when things go bump in the night. When things go bump in the night I get my Smith & Wesson M&P .40, I keep Nytrilium air freedom rounds in it due to the fact that I live in an apartment and have a bunch of kids I cannot afford to penetrate walls around here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dang guys hes not going to put the whole rifle together with it just a bullet guide that might possibly be held in place with bubble gum. Oh shit bubble gum I never even thought of that!! Forget threading the barrel (found out today mine is not threaded) I will chew a bunch of Hubba bubba and then jam it into the muzzlebreak and jam it on the end I figure the first round will clear out any residual gum still in the barrel...Rhodes thanks for the tip you are the man!! LOL Remember, use the Red Hubba bubba for permanent, blue or green for temporary bond... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denden 16 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Dang guys hes not going to put the whole rifle together with it just a bullet guide that might possibly be held in place with bubble gum. Oh shit bubble gum I never even thought of that!! Forget threading the barrel (found out today mine is not threaded) I will chew a bunch of Hubba bubba and then jam it into the muzzlebreak and jam it on the end I figure the first round will clear out any residual gum still in the barrel...Rhodes thanks for the tip you are the man!! LOL Remember, use the Red Hubba bubba for permanent, blue or green for temporary bond... And don't forget that low viscosity Green Hubba Bubba will penetrate into existing assembled threads. So if you want, you can smear it all over your rifle. Edited April 7, 2010 by denden Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Dang guys hes not going to put the whole rifle together with it just a bullet guide that might possibly be held in place with bubble gum. Oh shit bubble gum I never even thought of that!! Forget threading the barrel (found out today mine is not threaded) I will chew a bunch of Hubba bubba and then jam it into the muzzlebreak and jam it on the end I figure the first round will clear out any residual gum still in the barrel...Rhodes thanks for the tip you are the man!! LOL Remember, use the Red Hubba bubba for permanent, blue or green for temporary bond... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Krom 36 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 I recommend against JB alone, but I highly recommend using it with a screw sorta like super loctite, it'll prevent the guide from vibrating around at all and will lock up the threads better than loctite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Hey guys check out this sweet new tactical home defense shotgun. It has the all new, top of the line, military grade D.U.C.T. mounting system which attaches everything from bayonets, to flashlights, to extra rounds, even an extra gun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockina 60 Posted April 7, 2010 Report Share Posted April 7, 2010 Better idea, just make the Bullet Guide from JB Weld....duh. Who needs a bullet guide just a glob of JB will do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
libertarian 108 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Yes. JB Weld. Who needs steel. Why not save a few bucks and fashion the entire gun from JB Weld? Seems like a good idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
denden 16 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Yes. JB Weld. Who needs steel. Why not save a few bucks and fashion the entire gun from JB Weld? Seems like a good idea. I'll bet the Mythbusters could do a show on this idea (they already built a cannon out of duct tape). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Better idea, just make the Bullet Guide from JB Weld....duh. Who needs a bullet guide just a glob of JB will do.... Actually this was tried last year and as far as I know the rifle is still operational. You know we could just make the entire rifle out of pure milled titanium since it would be much stronger than that flimsy stamped steel some yahoos use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZA_Survivalist 7 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I purchased the bullet guide from Carolina Shooters Supply. No directions came with the drill and tap set, but I used the PDF file off Dinzags site and got a good idea of how its done. Took less than 20 minutes. (I went real slow when I was grinding down the magazine latch. I got about 5 different AK magazine make and models to ensure a good fit on each. No pics yet. But the result was great. I'm doing the same to my S.223. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 (edited) You know we could just make the entire rifle out of pure milled titanium since it would be much stronger than that flimsy stamped steel some yahoos use. Or you could just make the whole rifle out of JB Weld. EDIT: Doh! Libertarian beat me to it! Edited April 8, 2010 by BobAsh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Actually this was tried last year and as far as I know the rifle is still operational. I'm pretty sure the guy that was doing it never fired the rifle before installing a real BG. I think the thread is in either the "tech section" or the "conversion section", if you wanted to search for it. (i think we're talking about the same fella) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Actually this was tried last year and as far as I know the rifle is still operational. I'm pretty sure the guy that was doing it never fired the rifle before installing a real BG. I think the thread is in either the "tech section" or the "conversion section", if you wanted to search for it. (i think we're talking about the same fella) Im not real sure only that this argument always ends in a complete mess. There are technical requirements for this part and those are the facts. Then there is convention and that is bias formed on certain views based on fact and opinions or what Minnie Mouse is wearing. Some see substances like JBW as glue others see it as a composite of certain specifications. Same substance, same requirements, different views. It was not very long ago nothing that wasn't wood or metal ever came near a rifle. That of course changed as now even barrels, very good and expensive barrels, are being made of composites. Perhaps some of us like tweaking the nose of convention while others feel threatened by it. Above all I think shooting stuff is fun and forum wit not nearly as much fun. It is a real pretty day so Im going shooting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I agree with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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