Deussne 38 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Just finished cuttign the barrel to 20" and moving the front sight. Took this rifle to a range yesterday, and had a blast. It sounded like a canon going off. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imaghn 0 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 niceeeee looking rifle you have there !!! Congratulations on getting that together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Schweetness, finally someone does a good looking 54R BR Can we get a run of your work/parts? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Very nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 (edited) Schweetness, finally someone does a good looking 54R BR Can we get a run of your work/parts? Sure: 1x PSL rifle from Centerfire Systems 1x SVD look alike handguard from http://www.troupsyst...m/svd%20kit.htm 1x Ironwood design PSL stock an d Yugo #3 grip. 1x Tantal handguard retainer. I took the stock PSL apart. Took the gas tube off and ground off the handguard retainers. Cut a square for the pistol grip nut, Replaced the internals with US parts. Cut the barrel to 20". Cut apart the front sight and re-welded it on the gas block. Ground the welds flush to the point where I was satisfied. (the gas block came off the barrel for this part. While the gas block was off, I took the Tantal HG retainer and cut the top portion so that I can remove the gas tube on and off without having to move the retainer and installed it on the barrel. I had to dremel off the two parts on the side that slide in to the grove on the barrel, because PSL does one have those. And that is pretty much it. Edited October 31, 2010 by Deussne Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BrutalGardener 205 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Nice! Now, if someone only made high cap mags for these things... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Nice! Now, if someone only made high cap mags for these things... Or, even more importantly, a thicker barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Nice! Now, if someone only made high cap mags for these things... Or, even more importantly, a thicker barrel. Why is that? I think the barrel is fine. This is no longer a designated marksman rifle.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Nice! Now, if someone only made high cap mags for these things... Or, even more importantly, a thicker barrel. Why is that? I think the barrel is fine. This is no longer a designated marksman rifle.. Overheating, which the PSL is prone to, would seem to me to be a worse problem with an MBR, than a DMR, which would tend to have a lower rate of fire. I really have no idea how having a shorter barrel affects the overheating issue though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 shorter barrel = stiffer barrel = less flexing when heated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 shorter barrel = stiffer barrel = less flexing when heated. That's good, but I wasn't really thinking about accuracy, but about the effect on the gun in general. A PSL I shot was steaming quite a bit and the laminate on the handguards melting all over the place. This was after 55 rounds in 30 minutes, with the last 10 rapid fired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 shorter barrel = stiffer barrel = less flexing when heated. That's good, but I wasn't really thinking about accuracy, but about the effect on the gun in general. A PSL I shot was steaming quite a bit and the laminate on the handguards melting all over the place. This was after 55 rounds in 30 minutes, with the last 10 rapid fired. Well, I can't argue with your point. Yes, it would be nice to have a thick barrel or even a bull barrel. However, I think this one will suit me just fine. Having fired 5 mags in this rifle one after the other, I had some great results as far as shot consistency and accuracy. Not to mention that I managed to attract some attention from the other shooters, wondering what am I shooting.. Its loud. There were leaves on the ground in front of me, I was standing up, and every shot there were a cone of leaves flying away from me, to a point that when I was done, the area in front of me was clear of leaves. Now wouldn't it be nice to have some 20 rd mags? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 I gotta say, I've visited this thread three times today just to admire this rifle. It looks good. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joebanda1213 59 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Nice work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rick_a 13 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Looks great. Any plans for a muzzle device? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XXasdf 29 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Damn that looks nice, rhineland arms makes some nice looking furniture. Anyone try out their saiga specific THS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 Thats some nice work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted November 4, 2010 Report Share Posted November 4, 2010 One look and I'm drooling! Oh, ya I'm prone to do that anyway Between the Draco and these what can a guy do? Feel like a rat on a wheel. I think it's beautiful! Good job. Frosty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 1x PSL rifle from Centerfire Systems 1x SVD look alike handguard from http://www.troupsyst...m/svd%20kit.htm 1x Ironwood design PSL stock an d Yugo #3 grip. 1x Tantal handguard retainer. I took the stock PSL apart. Took the gas tube off and ground off the handguard retainers. Cut a square for the pistol grip nut, Replaced the internals with US parts. Cut the barrel to 20". Cut apart the front sight and re-welded it on the gas block. Ground the welds flush to the point where I was satisfied. (the gas block came off the barrel for this part. While the gas block was off, I took the Tantal HG retainer and cut the top portion so that I can remove the gas tube on and off without having to move the retainer and installed it on the barrel. I had to dremel off the two parts on the side that slide in to the grove on the barrel, because PSL does one have those. And that is pretty much it. Thanks, nice work and it shows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chrs_hatfield 2 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 does any one know if the PSL will accept standard AK butt stocks or do I need a PSL specific stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dobravery 49 Posted November 5, 2010 Report Share Posted November 5, 2010 does any one know if the PSL will accept standard AK butt stocks or do I need a PSL specific stock A specirvso Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan_stephen 0 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Nice PSL! Im looking for one exactly at this moment! too bad most online gun stores are out of stock.....i wonder if its a sudden urge of people buying the rifle or it always goes in and out of stock like this. How is the accuracy on it when it had no modifications made? and how is the accuracy now with the 20 inch barrel? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeorgiaPD 408 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Deussne, That is one of the nicest looking PSL's that I have seen in quite awhile. Very nice job and thanks for posting the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sjgusmc21 850 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Just wow! Really, really looks nice! I'm drooling here....great job and fantastic wood! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whitetrashrn 74 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 That is a great looking firearm. Outstanding job. Love the wood and how smooth the finish is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Thanks guys for the kind words. I really love this PSL They all should come like that! The accuracy of this rifle was about 2-3 moa when I was shooting surplus stuff from the bench. I think you can narrow it down to 1-2 if you actually try to aim and take your time unlike me. I usually tend to go: As far as accuracy now, I think it is the same. I have not really tested it yet. You see that sling stud on the back of the hand guard next to the receiver. Thats for Harris Bi-pod. I will try it out next weekend and see how it does. But I do not have a scope for it yet. So that would be just me shooting with iron sights. I still need to put a propper crown on this rifle. However, I am debating on which way to go with the muzzle treatment. I can leave the barrel the way it is, put a nice crown and enjoy the longer barrel. Or I can cut it down to 17" and Install one of these: http://www.1alumalite.com/ak.html (I have one sitting on my table in front of me ) Well, the only dilemma that I have is I do not know how the PSL is going to perform with a 17" barrel lol.... So I am going to give that compensator to my friend and have him test it effectiveness on his WASR 7.62x39 Now just so everyone is aware this is not a suppressor. It is a fake can (an over sized linear compensator.) So what is your thought. Leave the PSL with 20" barrel as it is now, and put a target crown on it, or Cut the barrel to 17" and put on this compensator? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dobravery 49 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I'm kind of concerned that if you cut it anymore, there won't be effective pressure to drive the piston. At Atlantic Firearms, they sell WaffenWerks PSL 16" carbines. I think they made more adjustments than just the barrel cut. If it were me, I'd leave it 20" and thread it. PSL's aren't recoil heavy and that beautiful wood should absorb some of that. I think the compensator looks cool, but I would take the extra barrel length over the fake suppressor, and/or both. In reality though, if you thread it 14mm, you can't go wrong and whatever muzzle device you like the most is the best choice. From the look of the 'fake' can, I wouldn't be surprised if it tames any fireball in low light situations. I think that would be a greater benefit than the compensation. Beautiful rifle, great job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308SAIGA 55 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Looks really nice,,, Edited November 9, 2010 by 308saiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deussne 38 Posted November 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I'm kind of concerned that if you cut it anymore, there won't be effective pressure to drive the piston. At Atlantic Firearms, they sell WaffenWerks PSL 16" carbines. I think they made more adjustments than just the barrel cut. That should be easy to fix, just open up the gas port. If it were me, I'd leave it 20" and thread it. PSL's aren't recoil heavy and that beautiful wood should absorb some of that. I think the compensator looks cool, but I would take the extra barrel length over the fake suppressor, and/or both. In reality though, if you thread it 14mm, you can't go wrong and whatever muzzle device you like the most is the best choice. From the look of the 'fake' can, I wouldn't be surprised if it tames any fireball in low light situations. I think that would be a greater benefit than the compensation. Beautiful rifle, great job. Thanks, I think I will just go with a plain crown for now, maybe as I change my mind later I can add some sort of flash hider/compensator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308SAIGA 55 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thanks, I think I will just go with a plain crown for now, maybe as I change my mind later I can add some sort of flash hider/compensator. I would put a 90 degree crown on it....... not the 11 degree..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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