I'm pretty sure New Orleans police stole my pistol

[Kliegl 304]

Remember the names of the police officers and peruse the obituaries

occasionally. Maybe they'll get lucky.

 

The great thing about shitheels is that that behavior is habitual.

Inevitably, they get theirs and you get to laugh about it. The best revenge

is to live well.

 

For instance, I used to work at a scout camp. The waterskiing instructor was

some self-aggrandizing hardass that was an undercover narc cop.

 

He got busted for child porn (probably why he was at the scout camp) and he

deserves all the getting it in the tailpipe that a fallen cop AND child molester

can get in prison. And I didn't even have to do anything.

[22_Shooter 1,560]

If the guy has the gun, I don't want to tip him off that I'm looking for it, and have it end up in the bottom of the river, as previously mentioned.

 

..............lets talk to the arresting officer and see if he can shed any light on it."

 

Ker-plunk

 

Which is as good a way to end a bad situation as any.

 

 

Listen dude, don't pursue this any further than "Gun got lifted by cop, reported it stolen as such, tried to get it back, have records to show that I did so".

 

This will cause the gun to end up at the bottom of a reservoir, and not as a "clean" plant at a crime scene. Considering that you got this gun confiscated while illegally carrying intoxicated (alleged, but not provable), and you were illegally carrying in bars (by your own admission here on this forum), you are experiencing 2 things:

 

1. That sometimes having a gun can cause you a LOT more trouble than it would ever be likely to help you get out of.

 

2. Getting off virtually scott-free from pulling this (IMHO, terribly stupid) stunt.

 

Lots of lessons here to be learned.

 

No offense, but........

 

Fuck that shit. Even if he did break a law(s), you're pretty much saying that it in turn means an officer can break laws and steal his gun? Again, fuck that shit. The man can "learn his lesson" just as easily if his property is rightfully returned, as he can if it's not returned. You're acting like he's a child who just got his fucking BB gun taken away for shooting out the neighbors windows.

[yakdung 2,926]

BTW, a post has been made on BayouShooters.

 

Just gave the thread over there a quick browsing.....

 

That place, or at least some of the members, make Arfcom's GD look friendly. Either they are skeptical of your low post count and recent join date, or they really are assholes who see no problem with a police officer taking your gun, and not logging it in. In other words, you're a dick for drinking while CC'ing, but the officer(s) are perfectly fine to steal. They even tell you to thank the officers in a handwritten letter and chalk it up to a lesson learned . What a bunch of dickheads.

 

I hope everything works out for you, bro.

 

I suspect that those responses were from LEO's. Culture of corruption marches on in NOLA.

 

Yakdung

[G O B 3,516]

I don't know if there's enough evidence to raise hell, yet. I probably need to call the NOPD records department and ask them about it, then proceed from there. I'd like to get the gun back, but at the same time, I can go get another one for $200, which is less than what I'll spend driving to New Orleans, getting a hotel room, and blowing money in a titty bar.

Report the theft to BATFE, and the State Police, otherwise you may be arrested for whatever crime this scumbag commits with it.

[MN.9130 44]

GeorgiaPD tenders great advice, but at the very, very least, you MUST get that serial number out there as stolen. Cover your ass! THEN do what you feel is right!

[Bayoupiper 738]

Yeah, Dancing Bear sent me a PM and suggested I contact the governors office.

 

Here's an update. I've spoke with 2 different shift supervisors at NOPD, and both of them are saying that there wasn't a report made about a confiscated firearm in relation to my arrest. When I talked to the first shift supervisor I didn't have any of my paperwork because I was out of town working, but today I had all the stuff and was able to provide him with case numbers, as well as arresting officer's name and badge number. He informed me that the arresting officer works in the traffic department, I think a motorcycle officer, and gave me a couple of numbers to call. He said I need to get in touch with the arresting officer, and ask him what happened to the gun, which I find kind of strange. If the guy has the gun, I don't want to tip him off that I'm looking for it, and have it end up in the bottom of the river, as previously mentioned. I also told the shift supervisor that I found it strange that he would give me numbers and ask me to conduct my own investigation, when it appears to be an intra-departmental deal, but I don't know if this is SOP or not.

 

Basically, its looking like the pistol definitely got taken by one of the officers on the scene, I'm just not sure which one. I told the shift supervisor I talked with today that I was about ready to make a stolen firearm report. His reply, "Well, lets talk to the arresting officer and see if he can shed any light on it." Sure, sounds like a great idea.

 

 

 

It wasn't the Governor...................................

 

 

 

 

 

There is also the possibility that the weapon got put under a different item number.

 

Even so, they should be able to cross check by name.

[Bayoupiper 738]

BTW, a post has been made on BayouShooters.

 

Just gave the thread over there a quick browsing.....

 

That place, or at least some of the members, make Arfcom's GD look friendly. Either they are skeptical of your low post count and recent join date, or they really are assholes who see no problem with a police officer taking your gun, and not logging it in. In other words, you're a dick for drinking while CC'ing, but the officer(s) are perfectly fine to steal. They even tell you to thank the officers in a handwritten letter and chalk it up to a lesson learned . What a bunch of dickheads.

 

I hope everything works out for you, bro.

 

 

 

No different than here....

[308SAIGA 55]

Wow, I have never been on that site, nor have I ever heard of it before today... I just tried to go on, just to browse, and it says that the Admin has banned my IP address(??????) WTH???

[yakdung 2,926]

Elvis, Check this out. Look how many have viewed your post in just a short time. I know this must have struck a nerve.

 

 

Yakdung

[Paulyski 2,227]

BTW, a post has been made on BayouShooters.

 

Just gave the thread over there a quick browsing.....

 

That place, or at least some of the members, make Arfcom's GD look friendly. Either they are skeptical of your low post count and recent join date, or they really are assholes who see no problem with a police officer taking your gun, and not logging it in. In other words, you're a dick for drinking while CC'ing, but the officer(s) are perfectly fine to steal. They even tell you to thank the officers in a handwritten letter and chalk it up to a lesson learned . What a bunch of dickheads.

 

I hope everything works out for you, bro.

 

 

 

No different than here....

I think it might be fun to join, just to troll Nolacopusmc.

 

http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50229

[Vicarious_Lee 84]

 

No offense, but........

 

Fuck that shit. Even if he did break a law(s), you're pretty much saying that it in turn means an officer can break laws and steal his gun? Again, fuck that shit. The man can "learn his lesson" just as easily if his property is rightfully returned, as he can if it's not returned. You're acting like he's a child who just got his fucking BB gun taken away for shooting out the neighbors windows.

 

None taken.

 

I'm not saying two wrongs make a right. I'm saying play stupid games win stupid prizes. If it were me, I'd sever my ties to the gun and leave that at that, because I don't think I'd want a corrupt police department getting vengeful because I am causing them trouble, ESPECIALLY since I got off so fucking light for committing a booze+firearm crime in the first place by carrying in bars while out drinking.

 

How sealed is this little fine, huh? How over-and-done with is it? The OP is out making a case all over the Court of Public Opinion against the NOPD, accusing them of theft and evidence tampering.

 

Maybe some DA got a link to these threads and is considering rescinding his generous offer to settle the charges. Maybe not.

 

I, for one, would not be handling it this way.

[22_Shooter 1,560]

I'm not saying two wrongs make a right. I'm saying play stupid games win stupid prizes. If it were me, I'd sever my ties to the gun and leave that at that, because I don't think I'd want a corrupt police department getting vengeful because I am causing them trouble, ESPECIALLY since I got off so fucking light for committing a booze+firearm crime in the first place by carrying in bars while out drinking.

 

I couldn't just "sever ties to the gun, and leave it at that". Because him just forgetting about the gun doesn't "sever ties". Worst case scenario, let's say Officer Johnny is some scumbag and decides to use the gun for ill means, like has already been mentioned. Even in a state with no gun registration, that gun is still tied to Elvis_Christ by means of the serial, assuming he bought it from a dealer and a 4473 was called in with his name.

 

That alone is enough to make me really want to at least know what happened to my gun, regardless of how much it's worth, monetarily. If it turns out that it was legitimately mistakenly logged in, then so be it. That's something that's still important, as far as figuring out. But the fact that he was already told that nothing about a firearm being confiscated was even tied to his police report raises an eyebrow.

 

 

(Just for the record, I'm not a "cop-hater". A good friend of mine is an LEO, and I'm usually one of the ones defending LEO's in the bashing threads. But this story just sounds fishy, about how no one apparently knows that a gun was taken and there's no record of it. I don't care if it was a $100 Hi-Point or a $2K 1911. My gun is my gun, and I'd want it back, or at least know what the hell happened to it.)

[DogMan 2,343]

Hey Elvis, this might be a good time to go looking for your gun. They are all so much in shock as my underdog Seahawks just knocked off their world champion Saints that they might actually tell you the truth. Who Dat? Well, we dat.

 

BTW, no offense to my N.O. saiga brothers down there

Edited January 9, 2011 by DogMan

[elvis christ 451]

Hey Elvis, this might be a good time to go looking for your gun. They are all so much in shock as my underdog Seahawks just knocked off their world champion Saints that they might actually tell you the truth. Who Dat? Well, we dat.

 

BTW, no offense to my N.O. saiga brothers down there

 

Just watched the end of that game at the bar. WITH ONE OF MY OTHER PISTOLS!

 

 

Seriously, where I'm from, we carry pistols pretty much all the time. You never know when someone in Birmingham is going to try to rob you, and the projects are intermingled into the decent parts of town, so you can't really get away from it, unless you move out to the suburbs, which I'm not willing to do, yet.

 

One of my main beefs with this whole situation is that I wasn't proven to be intoxicated, so I don't feel like the charge should have been made in the first place. They didn't follow protocol. I'm sure there are procedures in place for this sort of situation.

[lvkyle 9]

LMAO at them telling you to contact the officer your self to get the pistol back.

 

I duno about the CWP laws there, but here you're allowed to carry in bars as long as your not intoxicated.

 

If it's true it's illegal to carry in bars there at all, and you've already admitted to this crime on this forum, and the fact that you were arrested for intoxication that night even though charges have been dropped, i duno the consequences you will face if you try to take this to court.

 

More charges could be brought against you "carrying in a bar", which in turn you might lose your CWP for. Is it worth the risk?

 

IF you really don't care about getting the pistol back, just report it missing/lost/stolen and have documentation that you reported it stolen and the officers are the ones who last had possession of it, that way u are safe if its ever used in a crime. I would be careful about accusing the officers of anything or pissing to many people off and have the charges and more charges opened back on you.

[yakdung 2,926]

I took a peek at your thread on bayoushooter website. I also couldn't help but notice I was quoted and they found amusement in my post. I will say I was born practically on the banks of Bayou St. John and spent eighteen years of my life growing up in New Orleans. I have witnessed a lot of strange dealings pertaining to NOPD and what they have done over the years. So I'm making my post based on personal experience. My immediately family has had direct dealing with NOPD and friends that I will not go into. http://en.wikipedia....Carlos_Marcello I also have two friends that are practicing Attorneys outside of New Orleans and they refuse to step foot into the city unless it is necessary. They make a very good living defending unsuspecting tourists from out of town that make an error in judgment. I will say that I know for certain NOPD protected the mafia in New Orleans with kickbacks in the 1980's. If you notice when a cop detains you or is about to hall you off they ask you who you are and your name. They are looking for a local connection thread not to step on toes. That is the "connected" part I'm referring to. New Orleans has always been a very broken city that depends on tourism and now basically has regulated into a Banana Republic. The hurricane mess just brought it out into the light for the world stage to witness. Please do not take this as a LEO bashing thread because it is not. I was in New Orleans helping an LEO friend recover his gun safe after being submerged under seven and a half feet of water after Katrina. NOPD officers tried to accuse me of looting and it is no fun being surrounded and having M16's pointed directly at you. At that time if you had out of state plates you were almost automatically stopped and questioned. Also, be careful how far you follow the trail to recover your gun as it may lead you to a place you would not suspect. Be careful.

 

Be safe,

Yakdung

Edited January 9, 2011 by yakdung

[MT Predator 2,294]

One of my main beefs with this whole situation is that I wasn't proven to be intoxicated, so I don't feel like the charge should have been made in the first place. They didn't follow protocol. I'm sure there are procedures in place for this sort of situation.

If they followed protocol, you'd still be missing a pistol and have some real charges brought up on you. You know the old saying, "When in Rome"...

What you do at home in Birmingham doesn't mean you can go elsewhere and get away with the same.

Louisana law states no CCW in an establishment serving alcohol or while under the influence of alcohol. Notice that didn't say "intoxicated" but "under the influence".

I suggest reading the CCW laws of which ever reciprocal state you plan on carrying in. Might keep you out of way more shit than just losing a weapon. I'd consider myself lucky and write it off as a lesson learned.

[chevyman097 2,579]

Thats right buddy, how dare you make a silly mistake or poor judgement call. You better just let this one go. The cops would never do wrong, and if they do you shouldnt mess with them because they might be able to screw you over because they are bad cops and thats ok too because they are cops.

 

 

[DogMan 2,343]

 

I suggest reading the CCW laws of which ever reciprocal state you plan on carrying in. Might keep you out of way more shit than just losing a weapon. I'd consider myself lucky and write it off as a lesson learned.

 

I'll bet this is exactly what that New Orleans cop/thief was thinking as he tried to justify in his own mind why it was OK for him to steal that gun. This kind of putrid thinking is precisely what feeds police corruption. That crimes that they commit are actually, somehow, in a roundabout way, a "good" thing.

[Paulyski 2,227]

 

No offense, but........

 

Fuck that shit. Even if he did break a law(s), you're pretty much saying that it in turn means an officer can break laws and steal his gun? Again, fuck that shit. The man can "learn his lesson" just as easily if his property is rightfully returned, as he can if it's not returned. You're acting like he's a child who just got his fucking BB gun taken away for shooting out the neighbors windows.

 

None taken.

 

I'm not saying two wrongs make a right. I'm saying play stupid games win stupid prizes. If it were me, I'd sever my ties to the gun and leave that at that, because I don't think I'd want a corrupt police department getting vengeful because I am causing them trouble, ESPECIALLY since I got off so fucking light for committing a booze+firearm crime in the first place by carrying in bars while out drinking.

 

How sealed is this little fine, huh? How over-and-done with is it? The OP is out making a case all over the Court of Public Opinion against the NOPD, accusing them of theft and evidence tampering.

 

Maybe some DA got a link to these threads and is considering rescinding his generous offer to settle the charges. Maybe not.

 

I, for one, would not be handling it this way.

So what you're saying is you'd roll belly up & take it like a bitch?

 

Be a coward & give up your rights because you're scared of big-bad New Orleans?????

What a man does when faced with overwhelming odds defines that man's character.

Just from this thread, I can come to some conclusions of which members I would want beside ME on a battle field.

 

Granted I'm not some pansy-ass who hides behind the law & tells everyone that something perfectly legal is criminal & it's their own damn fault...

You DID see the part about NO field sobriety test & NO breathalyser didn't you?

 

You think the second you take a swig of beer, it's illegal to carry?

WRONG.

Please, everybody of this mindset just STFU & quit making stupid laws that don't exist. We already have enough stupid laws that do exist. I mean shit... Why don't you just obey the forced surrender of firearms laws that don't exist while you're at it.

 

Chrmany.. I'd really like to know how many people here who think what Elvis did was idiotic actually CCW?

If you look on the other thread on the other forum, you'd see that even that blowjob Nolacopusmc who came out of the gate calling Elvis an idiot, a hundred posts down proves himself to be a fucking hypocrite when one of the Admins asks if he was carrying in the past when they were drinking.

 

For those of you who don't carry.. You do everything you can to keep it concealed. But if you carry long enough, it's just part of you. You don't really notice it. I notice more when I DON'T have mine.

God forbid someone sees a flash of it, shits their pants because their some pansy-assed liberal douchebag & calls the cops.

I carry under a jacket or untucked shirt. It would be pretty fucking stupid if I were to set myself up to have to go digging through many layers of clothing & untucking my shirt when I had to draw... Personally I've been there. You need to draw quick when you need to draw.

 

Ahhh..

Fuck it.

What's the use.

 

Give'em fuckin' hell Elvis.

 

(and maybe buy a 3/4 length coat. That's my solution.)

 

ETA;

Oh, & Yak...

N.O. bosses answer to Chicago, as do Florida.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Paulyski

[getitat 609]

Hello

 

I realize it's irrelevant to the serious subject at hand but this thread dredges up memories of me hitchin' to N.O. in like '71 or '72 to make Mardi Gras. I was 14 or 15, hair to my ass and about 135 lbs.

I had just made it to the N.O. area when some Parish bulls stopped, cuffed me, threw me face down into a muddy ditch, and did a few knee drops into my back.

The only thing my broke ass had of value was a sharp-as-hell Puma Folding Hunter, so one of 'em pocketed that before uncuffing me and telling me to "stay the fuck out'a Nawlins".

 

I did a lot of stupid things in my life, but walking to the next exit and heading back west was probably not one of them.

 

FWIW.....

 

-guido

[Vicarious_Lee 84]

\

Just watched the end of that game at the bar. WITH ONE OF MY OTHER PISTOLS!

 

Pauly, no. Not at all. We're talking about two separate issues, here. I'm talking about some idiot that illegally carries into bars, gets arrested with a firearm on his person, manages, somehow, by the grace of God, to get off without doing jail time or having a real felony on his record (which would revoke his right to own ANY firearms, anywhere, anytime, or to even shoot them), then talks about his crime on the internet, and THEN, even after the near-suicidal idiocy of what he is doing is pointed out to him, he responds by

 

SAYING THAT HE IS ILLEGALLY CARRYING IN A BAR AGAIN.

 

While corruption in law enforcement is nothing to be shrugged off, ignored, or even tolerated, I simply cannot get over the fact that the OP is even dumber than the NOPD is allegedly dirty.

 

 

And since I can't get over this, I can't really continue the discussion on the actual topic of how to get this guy's gun back for him so he can continue to commit felonies with it and talk about doing so on the internet.

 

So I'm not really useful to this thread in that regard and will back out of it now.

[Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393]

I've got to say Vicarious_Lee does have a good point. I wouldn't call elvis an idiot though, but Lee has a very good point.

 

Pauly, I am sure we all understand the difference between what is right/wrong versus illegal/legal. Yes, sometimes things that are illegal are not wrong, and things that are legal are not right. And no one can burst into a rant about about crooked cops quite like me

 

But the fact of the matter is, the law is the law, and even when it's a stupid bullshit one, one should calculate their risks when going about challenging it. The bar law may be dumb, but actively talking about breaking it, if the consequences are in fact felony charges that result in permanent loss of firearm/voting rights and the ability to seek gainful employment for life, I know I would give myself some pause and consider what I'm doing. I know it's easy to talk on the internet about who we would like to go into battle with, but I tend to think about my everyday life before Valhalla and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

And I know all about dumb laws, trust me. Yes, it is stupid to have to put a bajillion welds on a muzzle brake or make sure every magazine you own conforms to an arbitrary capacity limit that was decided by a lawmaker when I was a toddler. But I still follow all those dumb laws, as much as I disagree with them, because I do value my rights (and the diameter of my anus).

 

Sure, I've seen people who live in ban states break laws and brag about it on the internet, or the occasional guy on here talking junk about 922r, or stuff like this regarding carry. And if someone wants to take those risks, whatever, but I wouldn't be mad at a guy like Lee for trying to remind him that it is very easy to find yourself unable to ever own a gun again due to some law you felt like breaking.

 

And I'm sorry if that makes me a pussy you'd never want to go into battle with.

[paprotective 362]

\

Just watched the end of that game at the bar. WITH ONE OF MY OTHER PISTOLS!

 

Pauly, no. Not at all. We're talking about two separate issues, here. I'm talking about some idiot that illegally carries into bars, gets arrested with a firearm on his person, manages, somehow, by the grace of God, to get off without doing jail time or having a real felony on his record (which would revoke his right to own ANY firearms, anywhere, anytime, or to even shoot them), then talks about his crime on the internet, and THEN, even after the near-suicidal idiocy of what he is doing is pointed out to him, he responds by

 

SAYING THAT HE IS ILLEGALLY CARRYING IN A BAR AGAIN.

 

While corruption in law enforcement is nothing to be shrugged off, ignored, or even tolerated, I simply cannot get over the fact that the OP is even dumber than the NOPD is allegedly dirty.

 

 

And since I can't get over this, I can't really continue the discussion on the actual topic of how to get this guy's gun back for him so he can continue to commit felonies with it and talk about doing so on the internet.

 

So I'm not really useful to this thread in that regard and will back out of it now.

 

 

Glad PA isn't like that.. up here we can carry in a bar.. of course common sense prevails and limit is 1-2 beers..

 

Would ruin my night at the strip clubs if I couldn't carry into them.. the girls would then say "your small" to me..

 

Its funnier when a stripper try's to HUM you and you'd drop your belt and the pistol falls on the floor..

 

Most of them think I'm GANGSTA anyway..

 

 

Al

[Paulyski 2,227]

Yes, but he didn't get stopped in a bar.

He got stopped walking down the street.

It wasn't a gun in a bar call.

[CJS3 3]

The way I see it I have 3 options. 1) Just forget about it, and buy a new pistol. 2) Take a day off of work, ride down there with my receipt for the pistol and talk to the judge, to see if he'll release it to me. Or 3) Call NOPD and report my pistol stolen. If they have no record of it being confiscated, it must be stolen.

 

What do you guys think?

 

Elvis,

 

Round up all of your purchase receipts, including the serial number for the handgun and head back down to NOPD. When you get there, ask to see the watch commander and explain the situation. Also, ask for a copy of the arrest report and see if the watch commander is able to pull up the original dispatch tapes for the responding officers. Every incoming call and dispatched call is recorded and saved. The officer most likely ran the gun with their dispatch to check it for stolen status while they were checking and verifying your permits and such. If this is on the audio tapes, then you have just proven that you were in possession of the handgun when stopped. I assure you that you will have the watch commanders full attention at this point and they will know where to start looking for it to return. If it was intentionally taken by the officer, then they need to know about it as soon as possible. It may have been turned into their evidence locker and just not added to the report. If this was the case, then that is a very bad case of documentation, which they should also be made aware.

 

If all else fails, I plead with you to at the very least make a report and file the gun as stolen. Make sure that the handgun is placed on NCIC as stolen by them. This is for your protection and shows good faith in the event that your handgun does ever show up on a crime scene. And keep a copy of the report for your records in the event that it is needed in the future.

 

Another option would be to try and PM Dancing Bear. I know that he works in the area, but I'm not exactly sure which agency that he is with right now. He may be able to assist you with some of this. Good luck, I hope that some of this helps.

 

Great info from GeorgiaPD....... Get it on the NCIC to cover your ass. Contacting NOPD yourself is something I personally would not advise, much less going back down there in person...........

 

A great way to land in a La. prison on some trumped up charge. Like being linked to a felony by your gun that was recovered at the crime scene.

Edited January 10, 2011 by CJS3

[lvkyle 9]

I don't think you should use the words stolen by officers at all, even if this turns out to be the case.

 

The officers could of very well of just forgot to do the paperwork out of laziness or even say they responded to some emergency call, and left the gun in the back of their cruiser or in storage at the PD. This is how they can explain it to the judge anyway. From there all it would take is someone to say they destroyed it or misplaced it among thousands of other pistols at the department. They can come up with endless stories which will all hold more merit than your own even though they are known for corruption. Remember your on their territory and in their backyard.

 

Just report it as confiscated by officers and then lost by the department. You've already fucked up and admitted to crimes publicly on the internet and it won't take a genius DA to search around and find these forums. This officer your accusing might be friends with a friend who knows the DA or a judge, and then you will find your self extradited back to LA for felony chargers. Trust me it can and does happen. It's their word against yours.

 

Yeah some of the laws suck, but you know what, that's your fault for partying there and breaking their laws.

Consider your self lucky all you lost was a pistol. I come come from a state were officers are known for "accidentally" shooting unarmed people all the time, and even more so known for shooting first and asking questions later if they get a call that a man/woman has a concealed gun/weapon and is acting angry or intoxicated, even though I live in a open carry gun friendly state. If someone saw you acting loud and drunk and piggy backing a girl as fast as you can down the street, maybe they called in that they think they just saw a drunk person rob a bar, and your accomplice the girl was wounded so you were running her out of there. This is easily how a senior citizen or someone could of reported your behavior to the police.

 

And you know what, the officers shootings are always justified here no matter how corrupt or bad they look.

If you weren't drinking that night and were not in bars then I would say you have a case and lawyer up and sue them until your last breath, but the fact is you came to their state and broke their laws no matter how much they suck, at the end of the day that's all the judge will care about. If you don't like it you can do your part to help change them, but crying about unjust laws after the fact when the first thing you learn in a CWP class is obeying laws so you don't get in trouble is retarded.

 

Also I duno how it is there, but in my state you can be charged and convicted of a DUI/intoxication without a blood alcohol, or breathalyzer test. It all comes down to the officers side of the story, and the judges here always believe the officers.

 

The only smart move to make from here is to report it as lost by the department and hope they might find it and return it to you, if not still consider your self lucky.

Edited January 10, 2011 by Kalashnikov Kyle

[MT Predator 2,294]

You think the second you take a swig of beer, it's illegal to carry?

WRONG.

Please, everybody of this mindset just STFU & quit making stupid laws that don't exist. We already have enough stupid laws that do exist.

 

Read the Louisiana law brother. Page 5. It states "under the influence" not "intoxicated". I'm not making shit up.

Louisiana Concealed Carry

Edited January 10, 2011 by MT Predator

[Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393]

You think the second you take a swig of beer, it's illegal to carry?

WRONG.

Please, everybody of this mindset just STFU & quit making stupid laws that don't exist. We already have enough stupid laws that do exist.

 

Actually, it is in that state, and laws like that are not uncommon in much of the south. I go to NC every summer and have a CCW that is valid there. In that state, not only is it illegal to carry anywhere alcohol is both sold and consumed (in a state where virtually every restaurant serves beer/wine so it's basically a ban on guns in restaurants) it's also illegal to drink anywhere that charges admission so for example not only can you not carry at any sort of club or venue but I can't even CCW while fishing because the pier charges admission. I also go down to FL and it's known as the "gunshine state" yet open carry is explicitly illegal except for a few exemptions like fishing.

 

It's a common misconception that "free states" are "free" in regards to gun laws and only those "commie states" on the coasts have dumb gun laws. You would be very surprised to see how many states also have pistol permit laws or very draconian restrictions on CCW or have hidden "good character" clauses in the legislation. Sure, they're much better off than a guy in NY, but they've got a lot of bull to deal with in a lot of states.

Edited January 10, 2011 by Classy Kalashnikov

[308SAIGA 55]

Just watched the end of that game at the bar. WITH ONE OF MY OTHER PISTOLS!

 

 

Seriously, where I'm from, we carry pistols pretty much all the time. You never know when someone in Birmingham is going to try to rob you, and the projects are intermingled into the decent parts of town, so you can't really get away from it, unless you move out to the suburbs, which I'm not willing to do, yet.

 

One of my main beefs with this whole situation is that I wasn't proven to be intoxicated, so I don't feel like the charge should have been made in the first place. They didn't follow protocol. I'm sure there are procedures in place for this sort of situation.

 

Alabama gun laws:

 

§ 13A-11-59. Possession of firearms by persons participating in, attending, etc., demonstrations at public places.

 

 

(4) PUBLIC PLACE. Any place to which the general public has access and a right to

resort for business, entertainment or other lawful purpose, but does not necessarily mean

a place devoted solely to the uses of the public. Such term shall include the front or

immediate area or parking lot of any store, shop, restaurant, tavern, shopping center or

other place of business. Such term shall also include any public building, the grounds of

any public building, or within the curtilage of any public building, or in any public

parking lot, public street, right-of-way, sidewalk right-of-way, or within any public park

or other public grounds.

 

OOOPPPSSSSSS, I guess you do not know your own laws!!!!!

 

ETA:

 

http://www.ago.alabama.gov/issue/Alabama_Weapon_Law.pdf

 

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Edited January 10, 2011 by 308saiga