BlenderWizard 12 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I work in a gun store, and NONE of our wholesalers have G2's in stock, but one has an Arsenal trigger pack. Cost on the Arsenal is about $12 more. I have no experience with the Arsenal. Are they any good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 From what I've seen, the hook holds the hammer rather high which would cause more drag on the bottom of the bolt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why is everyone out of g2's, I wonder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why is everyone out of g2's, I wonder? Dunno, but when mine comes back from Pauly, I'll have an extra, it's been worked on though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonking 149 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Tapco's trigger is crisper to me, cheaper, and can come from tromix modified for the BHO. Arsenal is alright, but I can't justify spending more money on the same product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 CSS should have them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Neither.... I made my own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Neither.... I made my own. For the price and performance of a Tapco, was it worth it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'll give a few away after I have a patent, get the first production run done, and buy a business membership here. The winners can be the judges of whether or not it is worth it. It is better than anything I have used in a Kalashnikov based weapon. Reduces friction as well. I'm excited, but very busy with my other endeavors, so it will be a while.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
timy 1,185 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'll give a few away after I have a patent, get the first production run done, and buy a business membership here. The winners can be the judges of whether or not it is worth it. It is better than anything I have used in a Kalashnikov based weapon. Reduces friction as well. I'm excited, but very busy with my other endeavors, so it will be a while.... Gotcha. I wasn't aware that you intended production. Just thought it was a one time deal which would make the time and effort involved rather pricy. Good luck with your business venture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Have you looked at the Red Star Arms Adjustable AK Trigger System? According to their website, the trigger group is adjustable for Pretravel, Overtravel, Disconnector Engagement, and Trigger Pull. Depending on your preference and application, it can be adjusted for Single Stage or Two Stage pull. Will not fit Arsenal rifles or M-76 Yugo. Looks mighty enticing to me anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Have you looked at the Red Star Arms Adjustable AK Trigger System? According to their website, the trigger group is adjustable for Pretravel, Overtravel, Disconnector Engagement, and Trigger Pull. Depending on your preference and application, it can be adjusted for Single Stage or Two Stage pull. Will not fit Arsenal rifles or M-76 Yugo. Looks mighty enticing to me anyway. Looks like a great trigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 The Arsenal S12 FCG is a big pain in the ass to install compared to the tapco. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 The reason Tapco is always running out of stock is because they are the most popular. Good reason for that.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpnrm96 70 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I purchased the Arsenal single stage for my conversion. I did so on the advice of the vendor. Dinzag. Brian told me they were a little harder to install but that I would be more than pleased with product. One of the big pluses is that it is a rounded design so it fits and feels better on my trigger finger. Still completing the build so I don't know how the dynamics of function feel. RAW: Put me down for one of the giveaways when you get things done. I'll be more than happy to give you honest feedback and comparision to my Arsenal. The Good Lord willing, I have plenty of time to wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Twitch, It will blow the Arsenal out of the water I agree with Cobra about the G2. I have a lot of them and they can be made to feel excellent. My first choice for a no frills AK trigger. I still modify them heavily beyond removing metal, reprofiling, and polishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Who the hell is Raw??? LMAO! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joseph 141 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) I have both tapco G2, and an arsenel 1stage and 2stage. Arsenel triggers feel a lot better and they work very well, nothing wrong with a g2 though the two stage slows down fast fireing but its good for steady shots Edited March 15, 2012 by ZombieJefferson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Enough stupid polls already. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magineer 9 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Enough stupid polls already. Perhaps a poll on that is in order. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Enough stupid polls already. Perhaps a poll on that is in order. Its already been done. Edited March 15, 2012 by King of the Hill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Who the hell is Raw??? LMAO! The "Resident Ammo Waster" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 I just got my G-2 back from Pauly, I highly recommend this modification. You wouldn't think it but it makes a HUGE difference in how the weapon feels. I'm thinking about sending the trigger that I worked on to him to have this done as well... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 I'm happy with my two Tapco G2s. As I don't shoot as much I'd like too, they're fine for me. I am looking for 1 single hook/trigger and 1 double hook/trigger, both Tapcos. No disconectors needed. If anyone has extras, please PM me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Arsenal's sear is too high to function as smooth as it could with the S-12 which is a shame because out of the box the Arsenal's lever is more ergonomic. When firing & the hammer's in the disconnecter, it's about the same, but when racking & the hammer's in the sear, the carrier can want to hang up on it a bit. Tapco's sear is a better height. Also, the Tapco's sleeve makes it a touch smoother of a pull The Tapco's trigger lever can be made much more ergonomic than anything out there comes out of a box. (I re-blue them afterward otherwise they can rust due to finger oils) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 If you'll check the video thread, I hip-fired mine in it and I gotta say that Pauly's trigger felt pretty damn good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thunderstruck 13 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 (edited) I bought a modified G2 trigger from AK-builder, but they sent me an Arsenal S12 trigger instead, which was about $5 cheaper than the G2. The Arsenal trigger really isn't much harder to install than a G2 trigger, IMO. The Arsenal trigger isn't bad at all, but I do like the G2 a little better. If I was building another Saiga, I would go for the G2 first, but I wouldn't mind using another Arsenal trigger pack. Edited March 19, 2012 by thunderstruck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Well as long as the subject seems to be shifting away from the OP's intended objective.... I'll put a write in vote in here for the Cobra's Custom Tapco S-12 Trigger. Available in single or double hook, with optional custom over travel limiter installed, and modified disconnect. All FCGs ( for the rifles or shotguns, including the S-410 with modified hammer to clear the rail) are correctly fitted for BHO (unless otherwise requested). Each comes with a correctly re-profiled, and polished hammer. BTW each hammer is GUARANTEED to be completely safe and functional, as well as each one being reshaped for much smoother interaction with the bolt carrier, and digitally measured to the exact thickness I've determined to be most effective at reducing friction... while again, being guaranteed to allow the disconnect to capture it if the trigger is held to the rear after firing a round, This of course as long as nobody has monkeyed around with their own bolt carrier and ground away far too much metal attempting to re-profile it...) All contact surfaces of the hammer, trigger and disconnect, are finely polished for extra smooth action and lighter trigger pull. Comes with disconnect spring installed, and a custom fitted Red Star Arms axis pin retaining plate, available at a discount with all FCG orders. Not jacking this thread or taking any orders from here... just letting everyone know there are other excellent options out there. Example of one of my hammers during modification.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Yeah, but do you put grooves in the face of the trigger? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Nope, don't need them. I've got Texas AK triggers if I want that. (But I don't like them so I don't sell them any more.) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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