Red Dawn???

[Bigchris 31]

Has anyone gone see the movie yet now thats its out?? Any comments about it? Worth going see? Looks good from the previews....

[jbanzai 113]

I was going to say it looks like crap from the previews.

 

I'm completely biased though. I almost always hate remakes when the original was so good.

 

I remember seeing it when I was 12 yo thinking it was the coolest freakin' thing I ever saw. At that time, it was.

Edited November 23, 2012 by jbanzai

[Marc 147]

Just got back from seeing it. It was ok, it deviated to much from the original.

[dayofruin 425]

I'll wait till I can get a copy.

[Jpanzer 1,265]

The trailers look pathetic. The plot looks pathetic.

 

The original was believable on so many levels, and the cast absolutely kicked ass. The actors I've seen in the previews look as if they are more concerned about looking "tough" in their scenes than they are about actually acting. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 3.9 out of 10....

[chevyman097 2,579]

Online reviews are pretty poor. I wont waste my money on it. Ill see it but I wont get ripped off doing it...

[DrThunder88 912]

Is it the film, or is it something else that draws the critics' pan?

 

I guess it could be both.

[dayofruin 425]

I don't go by online critique for anything... Usually, I enjoy the lower rated films better that the garbage that sometimes gets a high rating. The preview sucked for this one though and I think it may be a stinker. Hell... If nothing else is going on tonight I may go see it.

[NCSaiga1978 1]

I loved the original but this one just sucks. 2 out of 5 from me.

[Bigchris 31]

Guess i'll wait for the dvd....

[Rhodes1968 1,638]

I dont care if the thing is solid gold Oscar material not going to give those woks who bowed to the Chinese a damned dime.

[Arik 565]

Couldnt stand the first one. Wont even bother with the second

[BpS12 512]

For myself, I've found the trick to watching remakes is to NOT compare it to the original. Much of the time they are completely different animals. And while they are typically never as good as the original, they can at least be enjoyed fir what they are.

 

Besides guys, if NK invaded, ya don't think China would be behind it? In the original, didn't Cuba invade US? Cuba? Really?

 

That said, I'll wait till it's out on video. Our local theater is AMC, which is anti-CCL. So I refuse to put myself in a "Gun Free Zone" without an extreme need to.

Edited November 23, 2012 by BpS12

[pimpmastak76 21]

Saw it, wish I didn't. The critics were (for once), spot on with this one. The "acting" was just sad at best. I went home and immediately watched the original to get the new one out of my head. The guy who played Jed was the only somewhat decent actor in the whole movie. The plot was all over the place and didn't make much sense. The worst actor in the movie is the guy who played Matt, just absolutely horrible. I'm just going to pretend that this movie doesn't exist now.

[Rhodes1968 1,638]

For myself, I've found the trick to watching remakes is to NOT compare it to the original. Much of the time they are completely different animals. And while they are typically never as good as the original, they can at least be enjoyed fir what they are.

 

Besides guys, if NK invaded, ya don't think China would be behind it? In the original, didn't Cuba invade US? Cuba? Really?

 

That said, I'll wait till it's out on video. Our local theater is AMC, which is anti-CCL. So I refuse to put myself in a "Gun Free Zone" without an extreme need to.

 

In the original the Soviet Bloc as a whole was involved, the original Paratroopers at the school were speaking Russian not Spanish.

 

Colonel explains how the invasion happened:

 

[nlacy 692]

I'll wait until it comes out on VHS (do they even make those anymore) and pretend like it's 1984. Maybe listen to a little Van Halen first, and get my jean jacket on.

[Jpanzer 1,265]

Powers Boothe kicks ass....

[Rhodes1968 1,638]

Powers Boothe kicks ass....

Yeah he did.

[Zombiehunter762 376]

Reminds me of the lame Homefront game that came out awhile back that flopped.

I'll wait until it comes out on Demand.

Edited November 23, 2012 by MfWiC

[misterT 174]

I think I still have a copy on VHS somewhere, funny I remember some libetards back then claiming it was the MOST VIOLENT movie ever made! I haven't been going to moives much anymore, the Holywood crowd makes me want to puke.

[zenman223 460]

I'll pick up the DVDrip when it comes out!!

[RobRez 1,895]

For myself, I've found the trick to watching remakes is to NOT compare it to the original. Much of the time they are completely different animals. And while they are typically never as good as the original, they can at least be enjoyed fir what they are.

 

Besides guys, if NK invaded, ya don't think China would be behind it? In the original, didn't Cuba invade US? Cuba? Really?

 

That said, I'll wait till it's out on video. Our local theater is AMC, which is anti-CCL. So I refuse to put myself in a "Gun Free Zone" without an extreme need to.

I understand what you are saying, but I think you are too willing to accept the poor remakes. It is like saying, the key to enjoying this "New-pizza" is to pretend it's "Not pizza" then it tastes great!

Sorry, remakes are a product of an industry deviod of originality. It IS a remake of a film that already exists. Take a neat or classic old film and fuck it up, because they can't come up with anything new and interesting. It IS a remake so I DO compare it to what they are remaking/ripping-off/copying to get folks to pay the money and grab their ankles!!! Supply your own Vaseline.

Nothing against you personally, just my Rant on Holly-crap.

[dayofruin 425]

Honestly... I don't want to pay $20 for me and my GF to see a movie (remake of an older film) that's been deemed inappropriate, digitally edited so as to not be offensive to our big investors, then delayed after its been done for a while. Bad stigma for what could have been a good film. Like G.I.Joe 2. Probably woulda been great if they'd released it as planned. It's release was delayed because they wanted to digitally add 3d effects. I'll go see the regular version.

 

War of the worlds remake was good because it was a different point of view in the same event... Basically. I don't have a problem updating a good story visually and plot-wise but I hate when they destroy a good story.

[kevinfreel 215]

It was pretty awesome I think. Not as good as the original but I think it was fairly well done. I look for entertainment from a movie and it was definitely successful in doing that. Definitely gonna buy the DVD when it comes out.

[patriot 7,197]

I don't go to the movies anymore. I'd rather watch at home. The popcorn's not $8, I can mix my own drinks, pause if I want, and there's no 'tards yammering the whole way through the movie fucking it up.

[Dad2142Dad 6,559]

Yeah home theater is better

 

[patriot 7,197]

These places are GREAT!.....but expensive.

 

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...and I still wanna see Red Dawn.

Edited November 25, 2012 by patriot

[dayofruin 425]

I don't go to the movies anymore. I'd rather watch at home. The popcorn's not $8, I can mix my own drinks, pause if I want, and there's no 'tards yammering the whole way through the movie fucking it up.

I've actually gotten into mild confrontations with idiots playing on phones and being loud right in front of me. We usually go to the matinee to avoid the "babysitter" hours. Confronting these assholes may seem petty, but when I pay $20 for tickets, $12-$16 for popcorn and drinks (yeah that's one popcorn and a large drink), i don't want some prick in front of me lighting up my face with a cell phone or some idiot behind me kicking my seat and being loud.

[Jpanzer 1,265]

Spike TV had the original Red Dawn on tonight. I watched it again and it's still awesome! Yeah, maybe it's a bit dated, but whats the re-makes excuse for sucking outright?

[GREYLUPO 358]

Heres an AWESOME review. Not mine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, thats right, the "long awaited" remake of the 1980's Patrick Swayze cult classic of Commie-Killin' Red Dawn badassery has finally hit theaters. And.... that's where the positive comments stop. Red Dawn (The Remake) offers absolutely nothing to the audience that was either, better, new, improved, or even different than the original. It falls flat at every turn, and makes a poor attempt to hold true to its roots by leaning on flashy action sequences rather than story, struggle, plot, or even acting.

 

If you were born anytime in the last 3 decades and either A. Like America, or B. Like Guns, then you probably, C. like Red Dawn. Even though we all kinda think its a corny movie, it holds a special place in our hearts. There's really nothing like screaming "Woooollveriiines!!!" at the top of your lungs after emptying a mag into an old washing machine, detonating at least half a pound of tannerite, or even just using some leftover M-80s from 4th of July to implode a your neighbor's mailbox. As such, I had high hopes for a movie that is true and dear to my heart as a right-leaning libertarian, prepper, and all-around hater of everything socialist, including Ak-47 wielding paratroopers. But those hopes were dashed and I'll give a brief synopsis of why. Warning, mild spoilers ahead. if you want to see this turd of a remake, don't continue reading.

 

The first 25% of the movie is character introduction. This is where we're supposed to identify with the good 'ole down home grit of our nation's heartland, apple-pie loving Americans enjoying Friday night highschool football. Except... we're in Spokane Washington... not exactly "nowheresville", and the characters are as bland as frozen chicken nuggets from Denny's. The main protagonist filling the shoes of Patrick Swayze is Thor... and yes, I will just call him Thor for the rest of the review because I don't even like using him in the same sentence as Pat Swayze; not only could Swayze dance, he could aslo do this thing called "acting", which Thor finds somewhat difficult without his hammer, fake wind blowing on him, and a sixteen IP geeks dancing CGI special effects around him 24/7. Thor is supposed to be some kind of former Marine, although we have absolutely no idea why or how or what that's all about, its never addressed, all we know is that Semper-Thor is back at home with his dad, the "town" Sheriff, and his brother. Ah yes, Thor's little brother, portrayed by Josh Peck. Thor = tall and blonde and sounds like he's from Northern Europse... Josh Peck = short, Italian, stupid... yeah Josh comes across like a Fonzie reject from the Twilight Saga, not only is he stupid, he's also inept, incompetent, and falling down around his ass for his stupid girlfriend the whole movie. I really wanted to see Josh peck get bayoneetted in the first half of the movie, THAT I would pay money for.

 

I digress, the rest of the pre-invasion part is getting to know the now racially-diverse cast Wolverines who will be dealing the Communists the blows of insurgency. Its boring, senseless, and there are now two women injected into the storyline for absolutely no reason at all, maybe to capture a "love interest" in the movie, which was never intended to be there in the first place.

 

Okay, onto the invasion. The dreaded NORTH KOREA, with its massive infrastructure, immense logistical supply chain, incalculable power projection of thousands of amphibious assault ships, heavy lift air transports and troop moving capabilities..... wait? WHAT??!! North Korea? .... lets briefly pause for a little history.

 

*Begin elevator music*

 

When the Red Dawn remake was first drafted and filmed, the bad-guy was China. Once the movie had been put into editing, whoever decided to produce the movie, CHANGED IT, after it was made. They decided that China ought not to be the bad guy. Instead, the incredibly intelligent producers and writers, decided that North Korea was more apt to be the villain nation. You know... NOrth Korea, a nation about the size of HALF of California that can barely feed its own citizens, is comprised of mostly 1950's era Soviet weaponry, and can't even send a ship more than 100 miles off its own coast without running out of food or breaking down and sinking.... THAT North Korea. THAT North Korea is now going to OCCUPY the entire united states of America with paratroopers in a 24 hour period, a nation of 350 million people where most people own a gun.... lets move on.

 

*End elevator music*

 

So yes, just pull up your "I believe button" and be prepared to keep pushing it throughout the rest of the movie. The invasion begins, apparently there is a power outage which it is implied was some sort of EMP, although everything pretty much still works except the power (go figure), and the next thing we see are North Korean Paratroopers. This is when we are thinking the movie could REALLY get good. I mean, c'mon, how many of us on these gun forums who shoot and train and practice like a religion aren't prepared to open up a 40 oz can of Uncle Sam's 2nd amendment Whoop-ass if the Sh1t really does hit the fan invasion-style. Get this people... NOT A SHOT IS FIRED in defense of our nation. Apparently the "down home" folks of Spokane, Washington, don't own any guns (Thank you democrats). Thats right, its fugging "Judgement Day" when every ounce of horse poop ever to be shoveled out of Kentucky hits a fan larger than the Titanic's quadruple propellers.... AND NO ONE has a gun. Instead, we are treated to... wait for it... wait for it... AN EXCITING CAR CHASE, where Thor and Fonzie escape from their suburban neighborhood in a beat-up

dodge pickup

truck to "the cabin", which conveniently overlooks Spokane like some sort of Lover's Lane. Along the way from their exciting car chase, we see Fonzie's girlfriend being taken captive by the North Koreans, who are all driving HMMWV's.. yes... unarmored green H-1 Hummers, with the American flag on them, and some sort of oddball Red star North Korean emblem embossed over the top. Apparently the North Koreans lacked the logistical capability to airlift in their own light tactical vehicles, so they just asked us if they could borrow ours, and we gladly accepted, or maybe they just took one of Schwarzenigger's.. I really don't know, nor do I care at this point. While Thor and Fonzie are driving in reverse, a couple of other dudes, comprising more of the racially diverse cast of teenage Wolverines, jump in the back, and we're all set for insurgency.... did I mention you need to keep hitting your "I believe button".. yes.. do so now.

 

In the original movie, this is where the montage begins and the plot gets good. Its where young American teenagers lose their innocence, and gain a true understanding of how precious their Freedom really was; they grow up, they become soldiers, killers, they go to war, and most of the die along the way for a country they only really loved once they had lost it. They come to grips with losing their families, all coping with the end of their worlds' in different ways. Its what really made the movie IMHO...... None of this happens in the remake. Instead, the band of spry Wolverines holds up in a cave after a "traitor" gives away their position. The traitorous youth was originally an escapee, but Thor pushed him over, and he got angry... blah blah blah, I wont' even bother with the rest of it. So they live in a cave, and here we see some parallels with the original. The first is almost identical to the original movie, where they use one of the females as a decoy and lead a group of NK's into an ambush, popping out of well camouflaged spider holes with full auto fire. The rest of the montage is the standard build-up where the Wolverines progressively get better and better at blowing up random NK's. Its nothing special though, there aren't any WOW moments whatsoever, so you're just waiting for the end of it.

 

They do eventually all arm up with AK's and ditch the weapons they "found" at the cabin in weird places like a kitchen drawer, a tin bread box, etc.. (this is where country people keep their guns) according to most minds of most Hollywood writers. There was one notable scene where Fonzie holds up a piece of crap Tec-9 and says "wow, these are great guns". Thor replies, "Yeah, if you don't know crap".... then Thor takes a few bursts at a tree at close range, can't hit crap... moves closer... still can't hit crap... finally hits the tree about point blank with the Tec-9. This was about the only scene I liked; I sure it was an eye opening epiphany to most of those who would normally hold a gun sideways.

 

Eventually you come to the end of it where the North Korean's, led by a whopping Captain Chow, or whatever his name is, apparently the North Koreans couldn't get anyone higher in rank than O3 to see over an entire town, gets one step ahead of them. They set a trap for the Wolverines, akin to the original movie, that just winds up not doing much of anything in the long run. Fonzie gets his girlfriend back; Fonzie's friend dies, and they regroup.

 

Ah yes, there is a re-education camp in the movie; however, there is almost NO interaction whatsoever with it. We don't know they the people are sent there, there's no "breakout" from it (at least in the main plot), we never learned why Fonzie's girlfriend was sent there... nothing really.

 

I won't bore you with the rest of it.. go see it if you are trying to squeeze in a root canal and a prostate exam into your perfect day... the end of the move revolves around a link-up with 3 "former" Marines who are working for "the resistance". No, there's no F16 pilot that gets shot down and adds color to the Wolverines, its just three rather stupid actors trying to pretend to be badasses. One of the Marines uses the word "Motard" about sixteen times, and I guess we're all supposed to laugh. But after having served in close quarters with Marines most of my career, I've never heard the word "Motard" once, so I guess this is just Hollywood thinking they're being clever again. Anyways, the Wolverines and the insurgents have to steal the "secret weapon" communicator box from Captain Chow.... and in the end they do.

 

The end of the movie is about the absolute worst ending imaginable. I won't spoil it for you. Thor dies.... good riddance.