LuPiN8oR 333 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hoping this isn't true as it may affect us all here. Anyone see anything to corroborate what cnn is saying in regards to the ruskie small arms companies? http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/16/politics/ukraine-russia-sanctions/ "In addition, the new sanctions freeze any U.S. assets and prohibit American business contacts for eight Russian arms companies that make weapons, including small arms, mortars and surface-to-air missiles. Also covered is the Kalashnikov Concern, maker of the AK-47 and other arms." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Even if its not true, it could change at any given minute with no notice or congressional approval. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frz1197 128 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Fuck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dogster 577 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 This supports the CNN claim: http://news.msn.com/world/us-europe-escalate-economic-sanctions-on-russia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Putin seems to understand more about our political situation than most Americans... At a news conference in Brazil, Putin said through a translator: "They are undermining the positions of their energy companies." He said, "They made one mistake, and now they insist on making another one." Sooo... Putin isn't a pussy and isn't going to be backing down. I officially call for the beginning of this round of panic buying! Also, King Barry could pretty easily remove all of these sanctions at a later date, EXCEPT the firearms companies, and never hear boo about it. Edited July 17, 2014 by Maxwelhse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 No crystal ball. However, when events reach a certain stage and level and if the August Administration can kill two or more Constitutional issues with one stroke of his evil pen, he may do so. The timing may not be quite right yet. Soon enough the time will be correct and ALL military type imports from Russia AND EUROPE may be frozen and stopped. Just my read. HB of CJ (old coot) What that will do to the value of in country Saigas and other AK type rifles, plus Russian ammo and accessories is anybodys guess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dogster 577 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 More specific: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/foghorn/breaking-obama-administration-bans-import-izhmash-kalashnikov-saiga-firearms/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forsaken352 235 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Which is exactly why I hurried to go ahead and get myself a new Saiga. I had a gut feeling shit was about to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Saigas are still in stock and priced reasonably... Better order them up tonight before things go nuts, boys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) prohibit American business contacts for eight Russian arms companies that make weapons, including small arms, mortars and surface-to-air missiles ah, boys you do realize that TULA, manufacturer of WOLF .... isn't just a ammunition manufacturer, at least I hope you didn't , but they also make small arms etc.... what's that mean boys? lets hear it, let the panic buying begin Edited July 17, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I officially call for the beginning of this round of panic buying! Buddy you're already eating my dust. Why did I just buy another AK and 2600 rounds of ammo and rifle mags and pistol mags and another drum? Cause it's a buyer's market and I don't think it will be much longer. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I officially call for the beginning of this round of panic buying! Buddy you're already eating my dust. Why did I just buy another AK and 2600 rounds of ammo and rifle mags and pistol mags and another drum? Cause it's a buyer's market and I don't think it will be much longer. What you're doing is the opposite of panic buying. THIS will start the panic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 There goes the pre order Legion USA was working on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Russia doesnt give a shit what our government idiots do to sanction them and they dont give a shit if they import anything to USA. We the consumers will be the ones hurt. Along with our own economy. The world is laughing while we do nothing but throw words that mean nothing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well that sucks.. Guess these Saiga .308/12 gauge mags will be hanging around longer than expected. Same goes for the Vepr stuff. Looks like I've got some months/years of worrying ahead of me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Dammit. Don't know what to make of all this, just know I'm going to head to sgammo and grab some golden tiger just in case 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 So does anyone think this will affect the Molot and the Vepr line??I have more detail on the language of the sanctions: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/foghorn/breaking-obama-administration-bans-import-izhmash-kalashnikov-saiga-firearms/ http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx All I am seeing is the Kalashnikov Concern by name, and other Izhmash research companies.Thoughts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 As an aside, isn't wolf ammo made in the Ukraine? Once again, sorry to be the harbringer of bad news. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 So does anyone think this will affect the Molot and the Vepr line?? I have more detail on the language of the sanctions: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/foghorn/breaking-obama-administration-bans-import-izhmash-kalashnikov-saiga-firearms/ http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20140716.aspx All I am seeing is the Kalashnikov Concern by name, and other Izhmash research companies. Thoughts? It will likely be ALL of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hum... This may not effect the Legion preorder. Crossing fingers and grasping at straws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forsaken352 235 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well that sucks.. Guess these Saiga .308/12 gauge mags will be hanging around longer than expected. Same goes for the Vepr stuff. Looks like I've got some months/years of worrying ahead of me. Well, I'll be buying a 308 mag or two sometime in the future... Been meaning to ask, though, what made you decide on 8rd. mags for the 12? The 10 rounders go fast enough as it is... Just wonderin'.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Well, I'll be buying a 308 mag or two sometime in the future... Been meaning to ask, though, what made you decide on 8rd. mags for the 12? The 10 rounders go fast enough as it is... Just wonderin'.. Stamping force. 10 rd had been 1-2% past max safe operating pressure on the old press. Currently I can form both sides of a 10 rd at the same time, but the press is still being converted to our tolerances and bolt patterns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forsaken352 235 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Ohh, I gotcha. So, you're working on 10 rounders? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Izhmash had their chance to open up a US factory and didn't. Oh well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 A point made in the youtube comments of that video is that this will drive the price of ALL AK variants up no matter where they come from. Buy soon if you're looking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 All the more reason to buy American made firearms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Izhmash had their chance to open up a US factory and didn't. Oh well. the politics of guns swings so wildly here in this country, that I don't blame them one bit for not opening a factory here. what could be good to go one year ( selling "evil guns") in a few years may not be. then where will they be? a factory with products they won't be able to sell. unlike other gun manufacturers here who can fall back on selling their products to LE, Gov't entities, etc... none of those agencies will be buying AKs. Edited July 17, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbear 2 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Going to hug my pre 08 S12 tonight. I presume that mag availability will take a temporary dip with the panic then stabilize, since we have many domestic manufacturers now, and I'm imagining a replacement parts industry to get under way if this lasts for any length of time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Going to hug my pre 08 S12 tonight. I presume that mag availability will take a temporary dip with the panic then stabilize, since we have many domestic manufacturers now, and I'm imagining a replacement parts industry to get under way if this lasts for any length of time. This could actually have a positive impact on domestic manufacturing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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