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#1 Cameron Hadley

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 12:59 PM

Chaos is now an FFL weapon manufacture!  We have been busy with this since late last year after the announcement of banning saiga's and Vepr's 12 I wanted to design something that is easily customizable and that we could realistically manufacture from the get go. The Chaos WOC-12 takes both saiga 12 and Vepr12 mags depending on which trigger group you order. Vepr trigger housing will have LRBHO. This design allows for a multitude of after market parts and configs. Quick swap out barrel's, rifled, choked, smooth, and even SBS with tax stamp. The receiver on the WOC-12 is made from 7075 Aluminum, the gas system is pretty AK in design, we are working on this being able to be used as a convoy weapon with the weapon being able to be fired with a folded stock installed and in the folded position. The price point on this weapon will hit between $1400-$1600. With a small mod this could easily be setup with a left hand charging handle. I want to leave those type of features up to the buyer to hold down cost and give others a chance to manufacture after market parts. Our start up goal is 100 weapons a month, once we have our production lines worked out we will start cranking out 100 per week! When we get closer to manufacturing we will start taking pre-orders. Our current location is not large enough to produce this weapon in any serious numbers, so we have purchased our first plant for manufacturing, crazy and exciting times for Chaos Inc.  I would like to take the time to thank all of our loyal customers over the years for your patronage and support of the Chaos family and products. 

 

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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:17 PM

Best of luck to you and your family in this new endeavor Cameron!


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 01:31 PM

Great-looking scattergun.



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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:48 PM

That's exactly what the market has needed. Excellent work. I hope to own one. Very good job on the price point for your production volume.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 02:54 PM

Cameron,

That thing is gorgeous. Very interesting.

Do you have an over all weight spec yet?

May the market forces be with you! Best of luck.
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 03:02 PM

Nice looking shotgun. Is there a base model or will they be fully equipped like the one in the render.

 

Just curious.. Do you have or want any of our mags for checking sizes?



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Posted 26 February 2015 - 03:21 PM

Best of luck - sounds exciting 



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Posted 26 February 2015 - 09:22 PM

Cameron, that looks great, you've my full attention.

Best wishes in your business endeavors, I hope you make bank.

 

Time to start a savings fund for one of these.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 09:24 PM

Does it have an AR-style safety/selector and trigger?


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:26 PM

Very cool.

Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?

Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:34 PM

Very cool.

Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?

Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?

 

The barrel is above the gas system rather than below it.. Much like an M14 and similar.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 10:53 PM

 

Very cool.

Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?

Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?

 

The barrel is above the gas system rather than below it.. Much like an M14 and similar.

 

Well yeah I see that. I mean like low to the point of almost not being able to get down far enough to use them. It looks really low.


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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:03 PM

Very cool.
Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?
Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?

 
The barrel is above the gas system rather than below it.. Much like an M14 and similar.
Well yeah I see that. I mean like low to the point of almost not being able to get down far enough to use them. It looks really low.

Looks like just a flat top rail with flip up BUIS in the rendering.

Flat top ready for whatever optic or rail mount sight the end user wants.
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Posted 26 February 2015 - 11:16 PM

Maybe its just the HK sight. I'm not use to AR's with full rails.

 

Anxious to see a final product. Congrats on the expansion.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 03:52 PM

Does it have an AR-style safety/selector and trigger?

Yes

 

Very cool.

Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?

Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?

yes there is a molded mag well for the vepr version.

 

Very cool.

Do you have any plans for an extended magwell, like on a factory V12?

Is it just me, or is the line of sight, really low?

Our sights is the only ones I have a drawing of at the moment. They sit way to low to use with this setup! 


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 08:25 PM

So the receiver and forend is machined from a single extrusion? I am glad that you got it slimmer than your S12 quads. 

 

Do you offer a package that has the magwell and also the rock and lock baseplate? I think I would want both for the drums, etc. I would like to buy one of these evenually, and if I have to chose, it would be the magwell version.



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 09:31 AM

Well, once these are on the shelves, the only reason to own a saiga/vepr12 will be for Cold War Mystique.
How much will the barrels cost?
How much will an 18" barreled magwell version weigh?
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Posted 28 February 2015 - 11:28 AM

Aww shucks the buy now button doesn't work!

 

Please let us know if or when your taking pre-orders  greedy.gif

 

Will it take MD-20?


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 09:34 PM

So the receiver and forend is machined from a single extrusion? I am glad that you got it slimmer than your S12 quads. 

 

Do you offer a package that has the magwell and also the rock and lock baseplate? I think I would want both for the drums, etc. I would like to buy one of these evenually, and if I have to chose, it would be the magwell version.

The receiver and forward rail are not one piece, they are in fact two separate parts. The receiver is made out of 7075 aluminum, the rail is out 6061. Rock and lock, and Vepr style with magwell.  These will take all the same mags saiga12 and Vepr take.


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 09:46 PM

Have been a lurker for a long time.  Own and shoot a converted S-12.

 

Very glad to see your announcement. I can only imagine the hard work that you have put into this project.

 

Best of luck to you, and God bless America!

 

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 10:49 PM

What I was asking is how much it would cost to have both the parts that allows you to switch between magwell r&L and how quickly that swap can be done. i.e. is it a pinned in piece or a whole lower that would require an FCG swap....



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Posted 14 March 2015 - 05:48 PM

projected cost and release date?! im stoked really would like to see this succeed, got major distributors lined up?

 

pics of gas system? obviously looks to be adjsutable...use any off the  shelf shotgun bolts etc for parts commonality /easy/ cheap spares


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 12:20 PM

A little WOC-12 update. Everyone is trying to guess how this thing is config-ed, and I'd love to expose more and I will at a later date. As it is I doing something few ever would by showing this much in the prototype stage but I thought people would really dig seeing a weapon being built from scratch. 

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Posted 15 March 2015 - 12:32 PM

What I was asking is how much it would cost to have both the parts that allows you to switch between magwell r&L and how quickly that swap can be done. i.e. is it a pinned in piece or a whole lower that would require an FCG swap....

To swap from Saiga to Vepr config you switch out the Saiga trigger housing and remove the removable front mag locking tab. Then install the Vepr Trigger housing with magwell, that's it!

 

projected cost and release date?! im stoked really would like to see this succeed, got major distributors lined up?

 

pics of gas system? obviously looks to be adjsutable...use any off the  shelf shotgun bolts etc for parts commonality /easy/ cheap spares

Price $1400-$1600. Release date Late 2015 early 2016. Distributors are wanting on broad, we haven't decided this yet. The gas system is adjustable and of AK design, many after market parts will go on this weapon as that was the design focus from day one! 


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Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:53 PM

You rock Cameron!
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:05 PM

Fuckin sweet!
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Posted 15 March 2015 - 07:26 PM

Cameron, man. I looked at your prototype pic and I think I wet myself a little.

Not gonna lie, I won't be the first to buy. But I also won't be happy owning one.

Or two.

Or three.
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Posted 19 March 2015 - 04:06 AM

this is gonna be e p i c!!!  im sure everyone would love to lend a hand if ya need it to get er done.... lotta folks have tried and faild building someting along these lines, so heres to seein this one out to the end!

 

you talkin to MD about getting his freakin double stacks out around the release of this?


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Posted 19 March 2015 - 07:30 PM

I'm excited to see this coming out. A 922r free semi mag fed made by an excellent company with a good rep. Awesome. I have a couple of s12s ill sell in the next ban to pay for a couple of these. ( obviously, provided they work well and cam had proven himself more than a few times that he knows his stuff)

Point being, I like my saiga 12s. But this has sparked my interest.
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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:54 PM

This is Fantastic! I am super stoked to order one!


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