Suzuki1750 1 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 How stupid do they think we are? The sheriff brings in a semi auto replica to convert. When will goes back into the shop, he is clearly carrying a different Tommy gun with a shorter barrel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) I didnt notice that, but what pissed me off was they took a tommy gun and put big ass rails on it and a dumb ass vert grip. Its sacrilegious!! Its a damn tommy gun, leave it as it should be. And what kind of dumb ass swat team uses a 20 lb gun thats hard to control as an entry gun?? Other than that the shows were cool. Edited February 17, 2011 by GREYLUPO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrmallek 53 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Aww Man!! Just got home - DVR'd it - Well, now you guys ruined it for me. no more suspense left. Awww Shucks Really can't wait to watch it tho - no matter the sacrilege, it's the best thing on TV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Aww Man!! Just got home - DVR'd it - Well, now you guys ruined it for me. no more suspense left. Awww Shucks Really can't wait to watch it tho - no matter the sacrilege, it's the best thing on TV Justified is pretty cool 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Alright how cool... another RJ S.O.G. hater thread....how original.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunboy69 50 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Alright how cool... another RJ S.O.G. hater thread....how original.... Yeah, its fucking replica! Who cares? That gun looks badass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrmallek 53 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Aww Man!! Just got home - DVR'd it - Well, now you guys ruined it for me. no more suspense left. Awww Shucks Really can't wait to watch it tho - no matter the sacrilege, it's the best thing on TV Justified is pretty cool Dude!!! Just started watching last week - I'm hooked - another DVR one - tho, got in late and want to spend some time with my boys before they go to bed. Will watch Sons with my my 6yr old tomorrow but he's not a fan of Justified yet. Too mean for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Man.. it's getting as bad as the number of "cop hate" threads we had... Last time I'm gonna say this.. there makin' TV.... It's objective is to entertain! Hater douche nozzles were supposed to post at "the heirarchy of gun forums....the VERY top" not here with the rest of us slobs.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The "very top" my ass............ To the cornfield with the haters! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rockina 60 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I believe instead of "replica" Will should have said ""re-production", as it wasn't a toy as others have stated. But as I said before we talk different here in Texass and Louisanna... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I believe instead of "replica" Will should have said ""re-production", as it wasn't a toy as others have stated. But as I said before we talk different here in Texass and Louisanna... Umm... yeah, in N&S Carolina too. And the Saiga pronunciation police can shove it too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 well, a GRAMAR Police hate tread would at least be somthing NEW.....I think. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GREYLUPO 358 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Somebody could start a fireman hate thread. Those fockers only working a few days a week for good pay and they get all the girls at the bar! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know if they used a different Thompson or just chopped the barrel, but I agree it looked better "classic". But, what I was surprised about was the cyclic rate of 750+ RPM. That seemed pretty fast for a Tommy. I thought they did more like 500-600, but I admit, I'm no Thompson expert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SOPMOD 254 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know if they used a different Thompson or just chopped the barrel, but I agree it looked better "classic". But, what I was surprised about was the cyclic rate of 750+ RPM. That seemed pretty fast for a Tommy. I thought they did more like 500-600, but I admit, I'm no Thompson expert. Without the Blish lugs(friction delay system) on the bolt a semi-auto Thompson bolt converted to full auto is fast as hell. By the way a full auto Thompson is very controllable for an open bolt machinegun because of it's weight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know if they used a different Thompson or just chopped the barrel, but I agree it looked better "classic". But, what I was surprised about was the cyclic rate of 750+ RPM. That seemed pretty fast for a Tommy. I thought they did more like 500-600, but I admit, I'm no Thompson expert. Without the Blish lugs(friction delay system) on the bolt a semi-auto Thompson bolt converted to full auto is fast as hell. By the way a full auto Thompson is very controllable for an open bolt machinegun because of it's weight. Yep, but when you put on newer AR style lightweight rails, etc Im guessing it kinda throws off the natural balance of the original design. If you notice, when the chief shot it first he was definitely beginning to climb the ladder with it - both the initial side view & the frontal slow motion replay show him starting to fall backwards I definitely agree with the one employees comment about changing the original look of all wood is sacrilegious. In combat they did use the stick mags primarily though. The deputy did handle the weapon much better and showed the likely reason for the metal handguard because he utilized the forward verticle grip Enjoyed the show as always. Besides Will's weekly statement about "not doing this at home" and reminder of danger & legal consequences, they once again presented an excellent example of him educating the general public about firearms use and purchase (the lady who had just been robbed). I feel these things and "normalizing" the ownership & use of AK's and Saiga's by their constant use/display on the show far offset any nitpicking over minute, exhaustive details that the show really cant waste time dealing with - IF they want to produce "entertainment" and have great ratings - which has been the result so far Cheers Harv 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Somebody could start a fireman hate thread. Those fockers only working a few days a week for good pay and they get all the girls at the bar! HEY! Easy brother, don't be passing around mans best kept secret..... I miss that schedule. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike1234567 26 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 well, a GRAMAR Police hate tread would at least be somthing NEW.....I think. Okay then... gramurr sux!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrmallek 53 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 For the record: I love the show and did not post here to contribute to any of the sniveling hater BS. What I meant when I sarcastically stated that the episode was 'ruined for me' by talking about the show is that - I can watch it over and over again. Face it people - SONS OF GUNS IS THE BEST THING ON TV As a forum member - I am personally sick of all the whining on these boards. If you got a beef with someone - use the PM feature. If you want to start a thread to talk about how you know more than Will or are more in tune with the general public - Make your own GD show and see who watches it. UGH!! I can go on forever but won't Long Live Red Jacket and Highest Praise to Will 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yep, but when you put on newer AR style lightweight rails, etc Im guessing it kinda throws off the natural balance of the original design. If you notice, when the chief shot it first he was definitely beginning to climb the ladder with it - both the initial side view & the frontal slow motion replay show him starting to fall backwards He also didn't appear to have a good stance, considering he was firing a full-auto with a high RPM. He didn't even really lean into it at all. It looked more controlled when the younger officer was behind the trigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Just noticed they have a behinds the scenes thing on primetime on demand... might be worth checking out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 well, a GRAMAR Police hate tread would at least be somthing NEW.....I think. Okay then... gramurr sux!! Don't be hatin' on my grammar... she was a sweet old lady... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 You know if this is how we treat our friends and vendors, I have to wonder how we should treat our enemies! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 well, a GRAMAR Police hate tread would at least be somthing NEW.....I think. Okay then... gramurr sux!! To quote Homer Simpson: "That's it boy, whoop that smartass book!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfanatic 221 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 I love watching all the people bitch about all the little technical stuff and how much the they hate it, yet they still watch it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bean.223 365 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) What ya gotta watch (ESPECIALLY DISCOVERY CHANNEL) is editing!!! They will take these shows and create entire storylines that NEVER HAPPENED just through the editing. It happens all the time, if you watch these shows close enough it kind of easy to spot. So i bet the Tommy Gun switch has a perfectly legitimate explanation...that got edited out! Edited February 17, 2011 by Bean.223 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Suzuki1750 1 Posted February 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 I guess I should have clarified. I wasn't implying that red jacket thinks we are stupid. What I should have said was that I guess the producers think we are stupid and wouldn't have noticed the different gun being used, instead of the one brought in by the sheriff. It would have been nice to get an explanation of why the reproductin gun wasn't used. I do enjoy watching the show, but the final version Tommy gun looks like crap. Although I wouldn't pass up the chance to shoot it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 It's a good show . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macaholic 5 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 (edited) I don't know if they used a different Thompson or just chopped the barrel, but I agree it looked better "classic". But, what I was surprised about was the cyclic rate of 750+ RPM. That seemed pretty fast for a Tommy. I thought they did more like 500-600, but I admit, I'm no Thompson expert. Without the Blish lugs(friction delay system) on the bolt a semi-auto Thompson bolt converted to full auto is fast as hell. By the way a full auto Thompson is very controllable for an open bolt machinegun because of it's weight. I like the vid on your new Arsenal AK. I'm one of those pain in the ass traditionalists who believes you should leave it alone and screw all the hip, slick and cool daddyo gadjets. Personally, I like the Arsenal AK's the best because of thier fathfull adhearance to the factory specs, thats why they make the best AK money can buy from an American factory. What I would realy love to see is Arsenal start doing the same thing with the Saiga 12's. Man there's nothing cooler than an original factory correct Saiga-12 K in my book! Please exuse me if I got off topic on the bastardization of an original Thompson. I'm a traditionalist on that topic as well, and I too believe it's an abomination to chop on any original tommy, and who ever would do such a thing, should be cast into eternal darkness for commiting such an act. As for the way the old Thompson shoots, they are marvelous old sumbmachine guns and the M1-A is one of my all time favorates. Edited March 5, 2011 by macaholic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga_rom 91 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 i like the classic tommy gun, especially the WW2 style, and i also like the way red jackets tactical tommy gun looked too. however, i can understand how some people might object to extensively modifying a classic like that. maybe it would be best to build a new sub machine gun which is strongly based on the tommy gun. anyway though .45 acp seems like a perfect round for law enforcement to use. lots of knockdown power, relatively short round for high rates of fire, and the slug wont go as far as 5.56 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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