White Rider 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 WR, Factory or converted? Has anything been done to the internals? Is the gas block and puck clean? ports? At the time, it was completely stock unconverted. And all the ports were clear when I checked them and the puck wasnt too dirty, but I did dump 20-30 flakes or specs of stuff off of the end of the puck when I pulled the factory plug out. I probably shot 150-200 rounds through it before I took the gas system apart and cleaned it. I already got the conversion done and the magwell installed and everything but I am going to duracoat the gun, so I wont know if it just needed a good clean or not for a few days. But if I need to improve on the gas ports on the barrel or gas block I have the ability to do that. Also, I will be installing the autoplug, so that might help me out with my problem some. I do plan on getting the internals polished but I dont really want to be without this gun for that long. Like anyone else, I just want this gun to be bulletproof. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) WR, It might not be a bad idea to get it running to your liking before you Duracoat it. Just a suggestion, don't Duracoat anything except the receiver and try your best to keep it off of any bearing surfaces and the chamber. Ideally, I would keep it out of interior of the receiver. I have seen a couple Duracoat nightmares. ETA: I assume when you say "jams" you are referring to failure to eject. Sounds like you will need to reprofile and polish, and possibly need to enlarge some, if not all of your 4 ports. They are probably about .076-.080". If you get a chance, measure them and post the size. Did you buy it brand new? Edited December 29, 2011 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pimpmastak76 21 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just out of curiosity, and anyone that has one of these magwells can answer this one, has anyone that received one of these tried to modify AGP or factory mags to fit yet? I really want one of these, but I don't want to have to get rid of all of my mags and get new ones. The side ribs look like they might be in roughly the same location as the SGM mags, but I don't know for sure since I don't have an SGM mag to take measurements from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
White Rider 1 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 WR, It might not be a bad idea to get it running to your liking before you Duracoat it. Just a suggestion, don't Duracoat anything except the receiver and try your best to keep it off of any bearing surfaces and the chamber. Ideally, I would keep it out of interior of the receiver. I have seen a couple Duracoat nightmares. ETA: I assume when you say "jams" you are referring to failure to eject. Sounds like you will need to reprofile and polish, and possibly need to enlarge some, if not all of your 4 ports. They are probably about .076-.080". If you get a chance, measure them and post the size. Did you buy it brand new? Well all I will really be changing performance wise would be the auto plug, and I can sure leave that out the first run. I do think I am going to modify the hole in the gas block though. Its not really covering any holes but it is right on the perimeter of 2 of the 4 holes. And I was planning on just glass beading the barrel, reciever, gas tube, and dust cover and dura coating all of it. But I havent started that process so that sounds like a good thing. So I shouldnt touch anything that is inside the reciever at all basically? This will be my first dura coat experience Yeah I meant FTE's, sorry about being unclear about that. And from what I can tell, all the ports are about .065-.069, I got the gun brand new about a month ago. Just out of curiosity, and anyone that has one of these magwells can answer this one, has anyone that received one of these tried to modify AGP or factory mags to fit yet? I really want one of these, but I don't want to have to get rid of all of my mags and get new ones. The side ribs look like they might be in roughly the same location as the SGM mags, but I don't know for sure since I don't have an SGM mag to take measurements from. From what I can tell, on the factory 5 rounder I have and the SGM mags I have, the ribs along the side of the mag are in the same location. Wouldnt hurt to get a second opinion though because I havent tried to modify my stock mag to work on the magwell yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dc2bar 0 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 a magwell with a drum would be amazing! Please keep us posted! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nayo 6 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just out of curiosity, and anyone that has one of these magwells can answer this one, has anyone that received one of these tried to modify AGP or factory mags to fit yet? I really want one of these, but I don't want to have to get rid of all of my mags and get new ones. The side ribs look like they might be in roughly the same location as the SGM mags, but I don't know for sure since I don't have an SGM mag to take measurements from. The Screws bosses on the AGP mag are in the way I am sure you would have to take off to much material to keep the mag working for it to fit in the magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dgyver 13 Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Just out of curiosity, and anyone that has one of these magwells can answer this one, has anyone that received one of these tried to modify AGP or factory mags to fit yet? I really want one of these, but I don't want to have to get rid of all of my mags and get new ones. The side ribs look like they might be in roughly the same location as the SGM mags, but I don't know for sure since I don't have an SGM mag to take measurements from. The factory mag locked in as well. I did not fit (rocked front to back) as well as the SGM mags, but that can be fixed. I already added material to the back of the mag to work in a JT Magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pimpmastak76 21 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Cool, thanks for the replies. I think I will end up getting one in a month or two and just try to make my factory and AGP mags work. As for the AGPs, I was thinking about removing all of the screws and epoxying the two mag body parts together anyway, so I can just cut the bosses off and go from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Groovy Mike 36 Posted December 30, 2011 Report Share Posted December 30, 2011 Dang I missed this one, but thanks for offering the contest, I'll be watching for any repeats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted December 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2011 Dang I missed this one, but thanks for offering the contest, I'll be watching for any repeats! No Problem Groovy Mike we have em all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dgyver 13 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 Went to the range Friday to test out the new magwell install. I could not be more pleased with the results. Ran about 100 rounds and it cycled everything I put in it, even damaged/stove-piped rounds set aside for my single-shot 12 ga. The mags I had modified for the JT magwell were a concern since they have material removed from the side ribs. The 12-rounders ran fine but one of my 10-round mags would not stay locked in. Adding a little material will solve this. The new 8-round mags ran flawlessly, only modified to fit in the magwell. Both of the 8-round mags have pinched-lips and rocking followers.... no problems feeding. Along with the Tac47 Magwell, I have an Autoplug and an Auto-LRBHO. http://youtu.be/8ZOLWXiuKiE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Went to the range Friday to test out the new magwell install. I could not be more pleased with the results. Ran about 100 rounds and it cycled everything I put in it, even damaged/stove-piped rounds set aside for my single-shot 12 ga. The mags I had modified for the JT magwell were a concern since they have material removed from the side ribs. The 12-rounders ran fine but one of my 10-round mags would not stay locked in. Adding a little material will solve this. The new 8-round mags ran flawlessly, only modified to fit in the magwell. Both of the 8-round mags have pinched-lips and rocking followers.... no problems feeding. Along with the Tac47 Magwell, I have an Autoplug and an Auto-LRBHO. http://youtu.be/8ZOLWXiuKiE Thanks for the video and Glad your happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snafu360 21 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) Went to the range Friday to test out the new magwell install. I could not be more pleased with the results. Ran about 100 rounds and it cycled everything I put in it, even damaged/stove-piped rounds set aside for my single-shot 12 ga. The mags I had modified for the JT magwell were a concern since they have material removed from the side ribs. The 12-rounders ran fine but one of my 10-round mags would not stay locked in. Adding a little material will solve this. The new 8-round mags ran flawlessly, only modified to fit in the magwell. Both of the 8-round mags have pinched-lips and rocking followers.... no problems feedin That's good to hear since I have almost all my mags modified for a JT magwell.... How much slop is there since you have had to remove the side ribs? Also I'm not sure how the tac 47 magwell bolts up...but did you have any problems with the existing holes already drilled for the JT? Edited January 5, 2012 by snafu360 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dgyver 13 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Went to the range Friday to test out the new magwell install. I could not be more pleased with the results. Ran about 100 rounds and it cycled everything I put in it, even damaged/stove-piped rounds set aside for my single-shot 12 ga. The mags I had modified for the JT magwell were a concern since they have material removed from the side ribs. The 12-rounders ran fine but one of my 10-round mags would not stay locked in. Adding a little material will solve this. The new 8-round mags ran flawlessly, only modified to fit in the magwell. Both of the 8-round mags have pinched-lips and rocking followers.... no problems feedin That's good to hear since I have almost all my mags modified for a JT magwell.... How much slop is there since you have had to remove the side ribs? Also I'm not sure how the tac 47 magwell bolts up...but did you have any problems with the existing holes already drilled for the JT? There is not any slop, the magazine is centered at the top by the receiver. The issue is with the release, too much of the lower right rib removed and the magazine may not stay locked in. I plan on using JB weld to build it up. I have a 3- gun next weekend so I better have it ready. I will post how it holds up or what I find that works. The Tac47 magwell has 3 mounting screws. Plus another back at the grip for the trigger guard. The rear 2 holes are back far enough from the JT magwell holes to be a clean drill and tap. The front is 1 hole. On mine, it was half a hole off of the JT magwell hole. I drilled 2 holes in the Tac 47 magwell and used 2 @ 6-32x1/4 screws instead of the 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snafu360 21 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 OK that clears it up....I went ahead and drilled 3 holes at the front of my reciever/Jt magwell and could probably just match those to the tac magwell... If you get a second could you snap a picture with the mag/ release relationship? Thanks again,seriously considering this or jacks new magwell. Hats of to the guys at tac 47 aswell..love my auto plug! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Looper36 2 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 The only problem is now I have to rethink my build plans. I had it all mapped out and then you guys come out with this. I have to do some other things first but I will definetly be talking to you in a few months. Great Work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dgyver 13 Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 OK that clears it up....I went ahead and drilled 3 holes at the front of my reciever/Jt magwell and could probably just match those to the tac magwell... If you get a second could you snap a picture with the mag/ release relationship? Thanks again,seriously considering this or jacks new magwell. Hats of to the guys at tac 47 aswell..love my auto plug! Really cannot take a good picture of the mag/release with the magwell installed. If you look at their install instructions, the last picture on page shows the release in the upper left corner of the magwell. The release catches on the lower of the 2 top ribs (it sticks out more). Install instructions: https://acrobat.com/app.html#d=VgEnIMX2*UvMrq1teg9EQQ I did have to add material to my mag (previously modded for the JT magwell). Even with a deeper cut at the rib (as Risky did in a previous post), it was not enough to prevent accidental release of the mag. I uses Z-Poxy with carbon fiber mixed in with it. I shaped it to resemble the factory lug. I also added epoxy to the left side of the mag to prevent the mag rocking/twisting to the left. The mags now lock in very securely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Titan2nv 0 Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 My first post and I must saw I like. Now if it was ambi and and drum acceptable the market is your for the taking. Now just gotta buy a s12 and this mag combo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 One Poster In this Thread will Win a M.A.G. 12 Magwell for free. All You have do to enter is Post. Tac 47 is now in full production with a new Push Button release Magwell with an intergrated triggerguard. We are taking preorders filling orders for the first run of 200 M.A.G 12s. Magwell Adapted Grip is the M.A.G. 12 Videos in action to come as well as Pre order info, the first 20 Preorders get a free Autoplug. [/media][/url] Im interested. Pricing out yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crankywanker 7 Posted May 5, 2012 Report Share Posted May 5, 2012 I saw these magwell things but ive been kinda skeptical. I'd like to get my hands on one to do a full review. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 One Poster In this Thread will Win a M.A.G. 12 Magwell for free. All You have do to enter is Post. Tac 47 is now in full production with a new Push Button release Magwell with an intergrated triggerguard. We are taking preorders filling orders for the first run of 200 M.A.G 12s. Magwell Adapted Grip is the M.A.G. 12 Videos in action to come as well as Pre order info, the first 20 Preorders get a free Autoplug. [/media][/url] Im interested. Pricing out yet? Yes here it is and link thanks. http://www.tac47industries.com/content-product_info/product_id-2383/tac_47_m_a_g_12.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kukurilynch 2 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 I think all want one I do bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MightyLordRay 94 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 +1 to Tac-47 Industries Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mixednuttz 123 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Very interesting... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pangoner 4 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Has any one figured out if a md drum will work or has a adapter to work for it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Has any one figured out if a md drum will work or has a adapter to work for it? MD-20s won't work and there is no adapter for that application, but I like my MAG12 so much that I may SBS the S12 that it is on. I have other S12s that will accept the MD-20s, so it isn't issue to me. SGM mags are what the MAG12 is designed to use and they drop free fast with the push of a button when properly fitted to the magwell. I can do 3 mag changes with the MAG12 faster than I can do 2 with normal rock and lock mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
45Bretired 19 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I know it's way to late but I wanted to say that every product I've purchased from ya'll has been top shelf all the way. Keep up the great work and I'll keep buying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pangoner 4 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Has any one figured out if a md drum will work or has a adapter to work for it? MD-20s won't work and there is no adapter for that application, but I like my MAG12 so much that I may SBS the S12 that it is on. I have other S12s that will accept the MD-20s, so it isn't issue to me. SGM mags are what the MAG12 is designed to use and they drop free fast with the push of a button when properly fitted to the magwell. I can do 3 mag changes with the MAG12 faster than I can do 2 with normal rock and lock mags. Thnx for the info , would like to have that option tho . Just may figure something . To be cont. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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