gregomega 929 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) If you decide not put this into production would you be willing to share a build tutorial? I like it. I like it alot. This^^^^ Edited January 13, 2012 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THX1138 7 Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Very cool looking sir. While I am not a fan of the bullpup that I have seen for sale through places like J and G, this one looks great. I can't wait to see it when you are finished with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Actually, IO made AKs are known to have dust covers blow off due to frame stretch (happened to me also). But other AKs, I've never had it happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dayofruin 425 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I would also be interested in build tutorial videos, if you decide not to offer a kit. Your's is the best looking bullpup AK build I've seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) If interest keeps climbing I will find a way to put this into production. I will also make these available for the S12, with minor changes. Remember this is just a working prototype, minor changes will be made to make production easier for the molding process. Thanks for all the support. Edited January 14, 2012 by Sumsky 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Think I'll spread this around on a couple other forum then as that would suck if we couldn't get our hands on this setup. Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Think I'll spread this around on a couple other forum then as that would suck if we couldn't get our hands on this setup. Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none Tell you what. I will try to pump these things out at Home shopping network price if the demand calls for them. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Cool man. Either way that's a bitchen design!! Cool man. Either way that's a bitchen design!! Info now on theakforum Edited January 14, 2012 by AZG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutchsaiga 93 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I always skip any thread with bullpup in the title. And I must say I am sorry I did. Amazing work. Innovative. Clean. And functional. I will be checking frequently for updates 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bikermutt07 10 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I Love it, slick lines, more manageable, and a great look. I'm just not a big fan of charging handles running into my face (Lefty). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BpS12 512 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 It looks much cleaner than the KVar/Century bullpup kit, and isn't a mall-ninja POS like the CBRPS chassis'. I have a couple suggestions though: -Rails: As the forearm is decidedly proprietary you need to modify it to have some mounting points for rail segments, especially to mount a VFG seeing as how your grip involves touching the barrel. -Sights: Arguably this is one of the few places where a scoutscope mount would *not* suck in terms of cheekweld, and Ultimaks cook EOtechs and Aimpoint clones. Additionally, people my like having BUIS. I think that perhaps an Ultimak with a long rail that cantilevers back over the rear sight and extends forward, maybe anchoring to the original front sight post. -Reinforced dust cover: Peeps are worried about bullpups and kabooms next to their melons. The AUG uses a thick layer of plastic. The RFB has 2mm of steel. You need a way of protecting the user from potential out of battery detonations. Perhaps a dust cover with a few layers of kevlar weave epoxied on top, or something similar. This is not meant to be confrontational, but how many times have you seen a dust cover blown off of an AK-pattern rifle during firing? It is one of those things that does happen(regardless of how rarely) and not takeing steps to limit potential damage could land you in the hospital or court if you're selling the kit. If you watch the Youtube vids in slow motion/stop frame, you'll notice that most of the time it's the dustcover being pushed back and the front raiseing up away from the barrel. A simple tab about an ich or so back and over the top of the shroud is usually enough. Worst case scenarioes tend to have the bolt carrier and all fly back past the end of the receiver. Into your face if shooting normally, into your shoulder if shooting bullpupped. And iirc, it tends to happen on the cheaper/lighter built AKs. Some form of safety add on is just good policy. Imho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is the drop in Trigger Housing I designed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is the drop in Trigger Housing I designed. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 This is absolutely brilliant!! It's soo damn simple...and looks so fucking sexy!! Well done sir! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonking 149 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 I know I'm a bit late to the showing, but that is a very sleek design. I'm looking forward to any future updates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy-G 0 Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Oh Yes, I want one. You might consider making the vertical grip compatiable with an AR, or something else that is in the aftermarkets, that will alow customization. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) Oh Yes, I want one. You might consider making the vertical grip compatiable with an AR, or something else that is in the aftermarkets, that will alow customization. Yes, I will make it to also accept AR15 Grips. There is also enough space for Rails for a Light. This is just a prototype. Edited January 15, 2012 by Sumsky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanur 7 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 VERY NICE! Unlike those that have stated " I'm not a bullpup fan" I am a bullpup fan and have built a Saiga 410 from a kvar kit and I like it alot. That being said, yours looks much nicer. I hope you bring it into production, I think there are a lot of closet bulpup fans out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 VERY NICE! Unlike those that have stated " I'm not a bullpup fan" I am a bullpup fan and have built a Saiga 410 from a kvar kit and I like it alot. That being said, yours looks much nicer. I hope you bring it into production, I think there are a lot of closet bulpup fans out there. I will admit, I was not a Bullpup fan. They seem very akward, and could not find a Kit that I liked so I just stayed away from them. One day I said heck, since I cant find a kit I like let me see if I can make one that looks appealing to my eyes. If I dont like how it feels I will just scrap the project no great loss and convert my Saiga back to AK format. I must say this Bullpup is the best balanced Gun I have ever felt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 You have done with your build what I had been thinking about doing myself. Now you have done the hard/fun part for me. Thanks. Look forward to production kit or tutorial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iarneau 44 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 It looks much cleaner than the KVar/Century bullpup kit, and isn't a mall-ninja POS like the CBRPS chassis'. I have a couple suggestions though: -Rails: As the forearm is decidedly proprietary you need to modify it to have some mounting points for rail segments, especially to mount a VFG seeing as how your grip involves touching the barrel. -Sights: Arguably this is one of the few places where a scoutscope mount would *not* suck in terms of cheekweld, and Ultimaks cook EOtechs and Aimpoint clones. Additionally, people my like having BUIS. I think that perhaps an Ultimak with a long rail that cantilevers back over the rear sight and extends forward, maybe anchoring to the original front sight post. -Reinforced dust cover: Peeps are worried about bullpups and kabooms next to their melons. The AUG uses a thick layer of plastic. The RFB has 2mm of steel. You need a way of protecting the user from potential out of battery detonations. Perhaps a dust cover with a few layers of kevlar weave epoxied on top, or something similar. This is not meant to be confrontational, but how many times have you seen a dust cover blown off of an AK-pattern rifle during firing? It is one of those things that does happen(regardless of how rarely) and not takeing steps to limit potential damage could land you in the hospital or court if you're selling the kit. If you watch the Youtube vids in slow motion/stop frame, you'll notice that most of the time it's the dustcover being pushed back and the front raiseing up away from the barrel. A simple tab about an ich or so back and over the top of the shroud is usually enough. Worst case scenarioes tend to have the bolt carrier and all fly back past the end of the receiver. Into your face if shooting normally, into your shoulder if shooting bullpupped. And iirc, it tends to happen on the cheaper/lighter built AKs. Some form of safety add on is just good policy. Imho. Thank you for answering my question. Not many people do it calmly anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HappYBallZ 31 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 All this talk and none even noticed that that man also invented an invisibility hat/ski mask!? All I see is palm trees! Just kidding! Nice design I definitely would like to try one out if I had the chance; I also remember another member or two here making a couple prototypes. Don't exactly remember what came out of it though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 (edited) Please don't camo it. Camo is the to guns what a garage applied racer stripe is to a Honda Civic. It looks lovely as it is now and like it came out of a better factory. Even a good camo job says, " I made this out of bondo in my garage." Edited January 20, 2012 by GunFun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 An Ultimak with some sort of red dot (probably on a riser) would be handy on that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Please don't camo it. Camo is the to guns what a garage applied racer stripe is to a Honda Civic. It looks lovely and like it came out of a better factory. Even a good camo job says, " I made this out of bondo in my garage." owch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
postbanben 9 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 cheap short rifle shooting 7.62x39 thats not an sbr.everyone should have one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted January 19, 2012 Report Share Posted January 19, 2012 Apparently, to fire it, you have to think in Russian. Looks good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I know some people are probably wondering why I did not cover the Receiver, or encase the complete Gun like a lot of other Bullpups out there. I kept the design simple where you could still easily get the dust cover off, if you were out in the elements, without using tools. Also I wanted to still be able to see the AK designed Receiver. If I wanted to make a new Gun I would completely design a new Receiver, and not incase it in Polimer. Keep it simple, and operational. Thanks for all the great feedback. Please don't camo it. Camo is the to guns what a garage applied racer stripe is to a Honda Civic. It looks lovely and like it came out of a better factory. Even a good camo job says, " I made this out of bondo in my garage." owch. Already then. I definately will not camo my Gun. Edited January 20, 2012 by Sumsky 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I Love it, slick lines, more manageable, and a great look. I'm just not a big fan of charging handles running into my face (Lefty). You could move the charging handle over to the left side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68Datsun510 0 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Is there going to be a kit for this for sale some day? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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