bshoop13 0 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thats a nice gun. does your stock have a trap door? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thats a nice gun. does your stock have a trap door? Yes. and the cleaning kit is in it. The KVAR warsaw pact length US stocks have them but I don't know about Nato length. No if I can figure a way to cut down the cleaning rod and mount it under the barrel. Drilling through the mounting clamp at the front of the tapco Galil HG retainer has some promise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bshoop13 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 i have a tapco warsaw length and not only does it not have a compartment for the cleaning kit it seems to fit a tid bit loose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The KVAR Warsaw pact length is AWESOME! It has the trap, steel butt plate, and is VERY tight. I had to slightly persuade it with a large rubber mallet! Very solid! In fact, it is much more solid than the Saiga factory stock. I give it a AAAAA+ Trigger pull with the KVAR single hook is very nice also. MUCH better than the factory trigger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bshoop13 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 The KVAR Warsaw pact length is AWESOME! It has the trap, steel butt plate, and is VERY tight. I had to slightly persuade it with a large rubber mallet! Very solid! In fact, it is much more solid than the Saiga factory stock. I give it a AAAAA+ Trigger pull with the KVAR single hook is very nice also. MUCH better than the factory trigger. Thanx for the info on the stock I'll have to get me one of those. I originally didnt want to put any optics on my saiga but I bought a 3-9x32mm scope for it and put it on that scopemount i bought from you. Nice scope, the cross hairs light up red or green with different brightnesses or the normal black. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Do you have enough eye relief with the Warsaw length? I had the same mount on an RPK, and it did not give me enough eye relief with a 2x6, but RPK stocks are pretty short. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bshoop13 0 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 even for a small guy like me its a bit short but its ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Saiga 223 Kvar Stock Tapco FCG Tapco Saw Pistol Grip Tapco Hand Guard (with covered rail) Dinzag Lower Hand Guard Retainer AK Gas Tube 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rushfan 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Ok heres my Saiga .223 after conversion. Went with the Tapco stock and SMG railed forearm. I may put a scout mount and cheapo light on later or maybe a bipod, who knows what I can sneak past the wife? I took it out to our 50yrd range yesterday with 200 rounds of XM193 and had a freakin blast! I was able to score consistent hits on a shootnsee target from bench and freestanding positions. The 4 surefire 30rd mags I have functioned flawlessly and were eager to take all the .223 you could cram into them. The rifle got alot of attention from other shooters at the range and was just plain fun to shoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have been working on this the last few days in my spare time. I think I will run it at the next 3 gun for the fun of it. Shotgun-Saiga, Rifle-Saiga, Pistol-? Maybe my Open Glock. Greg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saigafan12345 21 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Bad lighting but it's finally near "done" and I'm happy with it Can't do much more cause I'm in NJ. Saiga .223 16" ACE fixed Skeleton Stock TAPCO Galil style handguard Surefire 15rd Mags Probably gonna get one of those new Tromix bolt on-charging handles Edited February 19, 2009 by saigafun12345 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikkelibob 0 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 My first: 16" 223 k-var warsaw buttstock tapco SAW stock handguard tapco g2 trigger dinzags conversion kit (for the ready to place triggerguard!) brand new dremel (love it, maybe even more than the rifle! why didn't I have one before?!?) I didn't have much trouble at all with placing a screw under the mag release. In retrospect I should have paid the extra for dinzag's BHO mod - next time I guess. Currently I'm using the e-clips on the FCG, but I may add the little retaining part thingy next time I order saiga parts. I have another 16" that I'm waiting for a ACE or MSA internal block so I can put my ace folder (looks a lot like the one above, without the galil handguard). Can't believe I spent $180 on the ace unconverted folding pg adapter when converting was so easy (and frankly, cheaper). My 16" ace folder has the surefire handguard (love it), and so does my 20" with factory non-pg buttstock (so that I have 1 US part plus surefire mags). I think I'm going to keep the 20" unchanged, so that I have one wolf-in-sheepskin rifle, but maybe get dinzag's fcg good for 2 922r parts and do the piston. Haven't done a feedramp on any of them. Would really love to find a US made wood stock & matching handgaurd set that immitates the import sporting config. PM me if you have a set for sale! Sold my 2 ARs at inflated post-election prices, was able to basically turn 2 ARs I seldom used and were finicky about mags and ammo into 3 saigas, a glock 19, a glock 26, and a kel-tec sub 2k that takes g19 mags. (of course, extra mags + ammo + parts were out of pocket, but it almost feels like I've made money out of the deals) I've simplified and organized my gun safe, and feel like I have firearms I can truly trust. Well, maybe not the kel-tec, but definitely the glocks & saigas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted February 28, 2009 Report Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) some really great rifles in this thread not a great pic, but a friend wanted to see it so i decided to show it here also. its still in the works. i recently removed the excess front sight barrel cover for measurement. i have ordered, from dinzags, the FSB with threads and bayo lug with a '74 brake. i also have coming a trigger set and a trijicon front sight post. I also have a sling on the way. I am considering a trijicon rear sight. I want a better scope also and a bayonet. so far - surefire tri rail stock RAA buttstock UTG scope mount Leapers 6x39 scope Sling Thing Sling adapter Surefire 30 round mag CMMG 5 position foregrip Dragonclaw bipod anyone know if a foregrip counts as pistol grip? its american so would be compliant anyways. Edited February 28, 2009 by GregM1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone1935 5 Posted March 11, 2009 Report Share Posted March 11, 2009 Got my .223 converted. Dinzag FCG, trigger screw set, and grip screw Falcon arms folding stock DPH no thread hider SAW grip surefire 30 round magazine RAA scope mount 4x scope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marek.no 0 Posted March 17, 2009 Report Share Posted March 17, 2009 this is my new Saiga .223 converted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Finally done: A slightly earlier picture: I may put the original forearm back on if I need to use a bipod, although I'm working on figuring out how to do one with my current setup. Edited March 22, 2009 by Mike the Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 new pic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) Gun pr0n! Yummie. lol. Just finished converting my .223/5.56~ Pretty fun stuff. The build list: Converted to Standard AK47 Fire Control Group w/ BHO (SemiAuto Only) Bolt Carrier- All contact surfaces polished Bolt - All contact surfaces polished Reciever Rails - All contact surfaces polished Fire Control Group - All contact surfaces polished Trijicon Tritium Front Sight 4 Port Gas Tube UltiMak Tri Rail Fore End Falcon Rail Guards x3 Surefire M951 Tactical Light Surefire LED Upgrade GG&S Front Sling Adaptor Blackhawk Tactical Sling Tapco/ Tromix G2 Single Hook Fire Control Group Tromix Shepards Crook Dinzag Flat Trunnion Bullet Guide Krebs Rail Over Receiver Eotech 552 Holographic Weapon Sight YHM Eotech Riser Eotech FTS 3X Magnifier CAA Galil Pistol Grip Tapco Pistol Grip Screw and Bushing Tapco T6 Collapsible Stock Tapco T6 Buttpad Cherokee M4 Cheek Riser (6) Mags - East German Steel Weiger 30rnds CAA Mag Coupler Edited March 31, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TR Young 175 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 gothchick, that is one sweet setup you got there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) Thanks TR. She's been coming along slowly. I'm doing a threaded compensator next with an indexing pin installed in the FSB, and getting a bayonet lug welded on to go with the soviet bayonet I just scored. This is turning into an expensive hobbie, but very fun. Lol. I recently broke the forward rail mount by over-torquing it, and Krebs sent me a replacement rail mount for no charge! I got it like in 3 days. Those guys are the BEST!! :-) Edited March 29, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stiletto raggio 20 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Gothchick is on a roll. Two Saigas in the span of a week? And you've got some heavy metal on the .223. I would recommend swapping your magazines so that they are both "rounds up." It makes for faster reloads and you won't lose any rounds when you are taking cover and low-crawling across No Man's Land. I stagger mine so the one on the right sits two inches or so lower than the one on the left so you can still work the action without busting your knuckles. YMMV. I'll shut up and go work on getting up the nerve to do my own conversions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) ^^^ +1 Yeah, I agree. But the CAA Mag couplers hold the mags too close to each other to mount both mags facing up. They won't clear my selector lever or side mount rail if I do... So I have a few rubber Mag Dust Caps on the way to keep the bad stuff out of the bottom facing mags. :-) Edited March 30, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stiletto raggio 20 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I had forgotten about it, but I had the same issue with a 7.62x39 CAA mag coupler. I like to put a 20 rounder on the right and mount the baseplate flush with a 30 rounder on the left. It allows you a lower-profile magazine and an easier reload because the 30 is so much taller. The problem is that the scope rail interferes. That's why I use that mag coupler with my Norinco and Maadi, which have no rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin_Hammer 8 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Gun pr0n! Yummie. lol. Just finished converting my .223/5.56~ Pretty fun stuff. The build list: Converted to Standard AK47 Fire Control Group w/ BHO (SemiAuto Only) Bolt Carrier- All contact surfaces polished Bolt - All contact surfaces polished Reciever Rails - All contact surfaces polished Fire Control Group - All contact surfaces polished Trijicon Tritium Front Sight 4 Port Gas Tube UltiMak Tri Rail Fore End Falcon Rail Guards x3 Surefire M951 Tactical Light Surefire LED Upgrade GG&S Front Sling Adaptor Blackhawk Tactical Sling Tapco/ Tromix G2 Single Hook Fire Control Group Tromix Shepards Crook Dinzag Flat Trunnion Bullet Guide Krebs Rail Over Receiver Eotech 552 Holographic Weapon Sight YHM Eotech Riser Eotech FTS 3X Magnifier CAA Galil Pistol Grip Tapco Pistol Grip Screw and Bushing Tapco T6 Collapsible Stock Tapco T6 Buttpad Cherokee M4 Cheek Riser (6) Mags - East German Steel Weiger 30rnds CAA Mag Coupler SWEET JESUS! You have more accessories on that AK than most AR-15 owners do on TWO AR's! It's got to weigh somewhere above ten pounds! Has it improved accuracy or handiness at all? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superhawk138 202 Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 (edited) Well I said to myself that my .223 would stay Factory ( don't know why i would want it like that ) but I tore down my .410 to build back as a bullpup. So I'm sitting here looking at the forum and start thinking about that poor furniture set and FCG just sitting in my safe not being used. OK lets convert this thing then I realize my drill and dremel are in my work truck which is at the shop overnight. I had to use a file for the rivets and a bench grinder to remove the trigger guard from the plate. Before After. 7.62 Left / .223 right Edited April 4, 2009 by Superhawk138 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silentsoul3401 0 Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 Pretty tame considering some of yours but considering the fact I just got it yesterday, it's not too shabby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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RalphXL 9 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) Saiga .223, Tapco T-6 collapsible stock fixed in one position(thanks NYS), Galil hand guard, Tapco trigger group, Saw grip, MSA AR-15 magazine adapter, cheap rubber armored scope by NcStar. Edited April 6, 2009 by RalphXL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gothchick 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Saiga .223, Tapco T-6 collapsible stock fixed in one position(thanks NYS), Galil hand guard, Tapco trigger group, Saw grip, MSA AR-15 magazine adapter, cheap rubber armored scope by NcStar. Very nice build. How do you like the AR Mag adaptor? Did you have to modify the mag well much? I was thinking of getting an adaptor... Edited April 8, 2009 by gothchick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pyzik 597 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Almost done. Just need a cleaning rod and a bayo installation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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