BruisedShoulder 7 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Why 10 and 12 round mags? Why not 10 and 15 as opposed to only a 2 round difference? With that said, which do you prefer to use and why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VWBeamer 1 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I like 8 rounders, but of those two, I would take 10 round. The 12 is too long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbles 23 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I like them all! 10rd is a nice size, but I would own atleast two 15rd or 20rd stick mags if someone made them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 You can make a bigger mess with 12 rounds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I've owned both. I prefer the relatively shorter length of the 10 shot. Actually, I prefer an 8 shot, but that wasn't one of the choices. The 12 rounders were a bit long (mine are early ones that could hold 13). Corbin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mollysman420 19 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I like the 10s Heard too many horror stories with the 12s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BruisedShoulder 7 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I thought the 10 and 12 were the only two options but shortly after posting this thread I found a similar thread with the other mag options. Ended up purchasing some 5s, 8s and 10s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have two 12s, that said, they're cumbersome in length, I'll buy no more. I like 8 or 10 rnd, prefer 10, for the range and possible combat. For home defense, my 5 rnd mags are the chosen ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
loose cannon 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 i like the 12 rounders i bought shortly after i knew of them.mine work well and i can stand the bulk in exchange for 12rounds as fas as i can pull the trigger. pleased with this system,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 i like the 12 rounders i bought shortly after i knew of them.mine work well and i can stand the bulk in exchange for 12rounds as fas as i can pull the trigger. pleased with this system,,, I have 4 Surefire 12's and an MD drum (and the stock 5). No problems with any of them yet. I do have some concern about durability of the 12's. In hindsight, it may make more sense to just go with more drums instead of all of the 12's. It's only money. I'll pick up some 10's and 5's one of these days too. No such thing as too many mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Drums are great. I've got a couple myself. They're heavy and bulky, which makes them harder to carry around, but for range time, you can't beat them for sheer firepower. The 12 rounders are a bit long for my taste, as I already said, but they ARE easier to carry around, for what it's worth. I agree, no such thing as too many mags. Corbin In hindsight, it may make more sense to just go with moredrums instead of all of the 12's. It's only money. No such thing as too many mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 (edited) I wish I could afford another MD20... Or two..... Ummmmm, make it three Yep, never enough. Do you think its a bit too much to have 10 mags ready for each of my pistols at all times? And lets not mention the number of mags of 5.56. Edited July 8, 2009 by ChileRelleno Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightwingextremist 0 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I wish I could afford another MD20... Or two..... Ummmmm, make it three Yep, never enough. Do you think its a bit too much to have 10 mags ready for each of my pistols at all times? And lets not mention the number of mags of 5.56. i agree with chilerelleno i dont care if its 2, 5, 8, 10, 12, 20 rounds i'll take any and all of them i can deal with the lenght and size of them all i love burnin rounds and chille no its not a bit much to keep them all loaded never know this day and age what shit might go down i do the same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tover26 18 Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 12s are fun, but having both 12s and 10s, I have to say that the 12s are very long and cumbersome. Plus if you ever put a vertical grip, you'll have to get used to the 12s as they tend to bump up against the grip just enough that it complicates switching mags. A shorter vertical grip wouldn't be a problem and it's not fatal, it's just not easy like a small cap mag with a normal grip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rogertc1 4 Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 States With Magazine Capacity Restrictions: CA - 10 Rds, DC - 10 Rds, HI - 10 Rds, MA - 10 Rds, MD - 20Rds, NY - 10 Rds, NJ - 15 Rds. Another reason 10's are most popular Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sasha601 0 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 States With Magazine Capacity Restrictions:CA - 10 Rds, DC - 10 Rds, HI - 10 Rds, MA - 10 Rds, MD - 20Rds, NY - 10 Rds, NJ - 15 Rds. Another reason 10's are most popular What about reliability? Nobody spoke of it. Is there a difference between 10 and 12 rounders? Wghich is more likely to empty without any feed or eject failures? 12 rnd surfire or 10 rnd promag, or 10 rnd AGP? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 What's wrong with having at least one of every mag available for the S-12? One of em even makes a cool conversation piece and a great doorstop! I refuse to choose. I say get one of each and see for yourself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lframke 1 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 What is the length of the 12rnd Surefire. How about the 10 rnd Surefire, Promag, and AGP. Do any of the manufacturers mags run longer or shorter than the others with the same capacity? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 The Promag and the AGP are almost identical in shape and size. They also have about the same curvature as the factory 8rd....just longer. The Surefire is about 1/4 to 1/2" longer than the other two. AGP = 11 1/8" on the backside. Promag 10 rd = 11 1/4" Surefire 10 = approx 11 3/4" 12 rd = 13 1/2" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RABIDFOX50 6 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I tried them all and found the AGPs, Surefires, Promag 12 drums and MD20 Drum work great in my S12. I like the AGPs and MD20 best but you should try them all as Cobra said. Well, maybe not that "door stop". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chriskroll411 2 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 10 rounds, definitely box mags. 12 rounds, definitely drums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mayor Al 41 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 I figure if I can't protect myself from a burglar/invader with a full 10 round mag, the MF deserves to live the rest of his life in the wheel-chair those ten rounds will prep him for. If it is a longer timed or 'bigger' home invasion, I keep a bunch of factory five rounders around to reload quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) I run a Mil-Spec Russian 8 for SD/HD. For the range, or extras; AGP-10s for 10 rounds. MD-20s for drums. Surefire 12s lack the power to reliably cycle 3" magnum due to the weight of all those rounds. Surefire admits this. For 3" rounds, Surefire are the most reliable in their 8 round configuration. Now if you're a race-gun guy, the Surefire 12 will do you well with your 2 3/4" rounds. That being said, all the US mags can benefit from tuning to achieve the highest possible reliability. I would avoid ProMag sticks until the next runs with the harder polymer come out, but when they eventually do, they'll be the nicest looking US mag IMO. I've tuned a ProMag 10 to run 3" mag reliably, but due to the soft polymer of the run, didn't trust it & sold it as part of a package, with a pre-sale warning. Edited December 17, 2010 by Paulyski Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 The only aftermarket box mags that I have/use are SureFire mags. SureFire 10 rounders get my vote. While the SureFire12s are nice, they have a documented history of feed lip failure under freezing conditions and when shooting magnum rounds. The 10s don't seem to have such issues... Enough said. Now if eight rounders were a option in this poll, then Izzy 8rnd factory mags would be the hands down winners... Case closed, no competition. .......................................................................... Now if Mike would only bring his DoubleStacks to market Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darko 42 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Yep, never enough. Do you think its a bit too much to have 10 mags ready for each of my pistols at all times? And lets not mention the number of mags of 5.56. the only thing that bothers me about keeping all my mags ready is that I don't like the constant load on the spring. I keep three or so ready at all times, and i switch them out about once a week. maybe an unnecessary precaution, but I don't want a wore out spring jamming my gun when i need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 the only thing that bothers me about keeping all my mags ready is that I don't like the constant load on the spring. I keep three or so ready at all times, and i switch them out about once a week. maybe an unnecessary precaution, but I don't want a wore out spring jamming my gun when i need it. News Flash! Springs wear out from repeated use, not from taking a set due to long term compression... You are wearing out your springs. While there may have been issues with old springs poorly manufactured / made of poor materials taking a compression set, it is pretty much a non-issue today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darko 42 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 the only thing that bothers me about keeping all my mags ready is that I don't like the constant load on the spring. I keep three or so ready at all times, and i switch them out about once a week. maybe an unnecessary precaution, but I don't want a wore out spring jamming my gun when i need it. News Flash! Springs wear out from repeated use, not from taking a set due to long term compression... You are wearing out your springs. While there may have been issues with old springs poorly manufactured / made of poor materials taking a compression set, it is pretty much a non-issue today. hmmm.... interesting. i guess that makes sense. I guess i always saw the long term compression as being the main threat. but I'm young and stupid so I guess I shouldn't do much thinking on my own anyway! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 hmmm.... interesting. i guess that makes sense. I guess i always saw the long term compression as being the main threat. but I'm young and stupid so I guess I shouldn't do much thinking on my own anyway! That attitude/personal insight sucks... I really hope that was sarcasm, at least the emoticon is oft used for sarcasm. Long term compression may pose some problem(s). Mainly in feed lip deformation of some types of steel/aluminum mags with very strong springs and max round count. I've heard about this repeatedly in various AR mags, some say to load one or two shy of max load to avoid potential problems in mags being stored long term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shoop_da_woop 3 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I like them all! 10rd is a nice size, but I would own atleast two 15rd or 20rd stick mags if someone made them. Why not a 20rd drum? a little awkward on the sides, but i like the look and concept better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 I like them all! 10rd is a nice size, but I would own atleast two 15rd or 20rd stick mags if someone made them. Why not a 20rd drum? a little awkward on the sides, but i like the look and concept better. Drums are great for holding a positions, but for grab & go while 1/2 asleep, the lighter weight & 3" magnum ammo ability, puts my vote on Russian 8... MD-20 has been as reliable as the Russian 8's for me, so I really look forward to Mike's doublestacks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.