waynebar 52 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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BrutalGardener 205 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) Is this a joke? Some website with less than 1000 users, makes a press release about the results of their AR vs. AK poll and the resulting flame war? I guess the topics is decided then. Edited April 30, 2010 by SpetsnazGRU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 wonder how many votes were based off of video game experience instead of real life... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) I'm surprised the AK got as many votes as it did. When I go the range, I usually see about 6-8 guys with ARs, about 4 or 5 with hunting rifles, and me with my AK. Occasionally I see another AK there. Dennis wrote, “Our military has chosen this rifle as the shoulder weapon of choice to defend our nation. The Taliban has chosen the AK. Need more be said?” Patriotism won't help me in a gunfight. It will not make my weapon feed cartridges or extract spent cases more reliably. Plus, does anyone believe the military chooses weapons on the basis of effectiveness? Edited April 30, 2010 by Jim Digriz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted April 30, 2010 Report Share Posted April 30, 2010 i wonder which one of the very few users linked it to an AR forum to help get votes up. also where did they learn math? that is nowhere near a 2:1 ration. it was a 30% difference in favor of AR's. Most people are still under bad rumor misimpressions of what an ak can do. did you read the quote about spray&pray? lol what a misguided fool leading others to water. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 i wonder which one of the very few users linked it to an AR forum to help get votes up. This is very possible. You'll often see a call for a "firemission" in Arfcom's GD telling people to hit a poll. It's pretty damn effective when you have 200K+ members (only 100K+ are "active" though I think) members. Either way, I don't put much faith in any poll when it comes to a preference thing. Because it is just that; preference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 How many AK's are in existence and how many AR's? This is the old argument of perfect vs. good enough. In WW2, Germany had 'perfect' equipment, Russia had 10 times as much 'good enough' equipment. How'd that work out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I have a very hard time hitting anything past 50 yards with my AK. I think one of the requirements should have been that you actually have used both weapons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Blather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I am fine with this type of propaganda because from an economic stand point more people joining the 7.62x39 club means this ammo type becomes more expensive. The price of the ammo is supported by demand. If more people join the 5.56/.223 or 5.45 club rather than the 7.62x39 club, 7.62x39 does not experience as much buyer demand as it would if there are several thousand new shooters looking to buy bulk 7.62x39 and the market forces the price upward from the new money chasing the product. Maybe it is selfish on my part but why would I care to argue towards a higher ammo price when so many people are willing to do just that by suggesting the superiority of the AR15 platform and the 5.56 while driving up the cost on their superior ammo suggestion. No thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThirtyAughtSix 101 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 wonder how many votes were based off of video game experience instead of real life... Don't you know the AK does 108 damage with a headshot and an m4 only 89!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I am fine with this type of propaganda because from an economic stand point more people joining the 7.62x39 club means this ammo type becomes more expensive. The price of the ammo is supported by demand. If more people join the 5.56/.223 or 5.45 club rather than the 7.62x39 club, 7.62x39 does not experience as much buyer demand as it would if there are several thousand new shooters looking to buy bulk 7.62x39 and the market forces the price upward from the new money chasing the product. Maybe it is selfish on my part but why would I care to argue towards a higher ammo price when so many people are willing to do just that by suggesting the superiority of the AR15 platform and the 5.56 while driving up the cost on their superior ammo suggestion. No thanks. I agree. Don't educate people when its not in your best interests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Klassy Kalashnikov 1,393 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoughRider666 47 Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) I have a very hard time hitting anything past 50 yards with my AK. I think one of the requirements should have been that you actually have used both weapons. Are you serious?!? I hit milk jugs full of water out to 200 yards with iron sites with my X39 & 5.45 Saiga's all the time! Edited May 2, 2010 by RoughRider666 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dieb4iwake 60 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I have a very hard time hitting anything past 50 yards with my AK. I think one of the requirements should have been that you actually have used both weapons. Are you serious?!? I hit milk jugs full of water out to 200 yards with iron sites with my X39 & 5.45 Saiga's all the time! I second this. I only start to have a hard time at 300 yards just because I cant see that damn far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
superA 289 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I have a very hard time hitting anything past 50 yards with my AK. I think one of the requirements should have been that you actually have used both weapons. Are you serious?!? I hit milk jugs full of water out to 200 yards with iron sites with my X39 & 5.45 Saiga's all the time! No I was being sarcastic, the comment some guy made about them not being much good past fifty yards led me to making my second comment. The "can't hit the BSOAB with an AK" comments usually just means they haven't spent any time with one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
volkov 318 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 wonder how many votes were based off of video game experience instead of real life... Don't you know the AK does 108 damage with a headshot and an m4 only 89!! but my in game character sucks at managing recoil and aiming, so it MUST be shitty in real life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgconnor13 206 Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 I can out shoot AR's with my AK pretty sure it's me not the guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macbeau 902 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Warriors go with good reliable, efficient, effective and reliable weapons (emphasis on reliable). Those who don't know the difference, go with whatever is popular. Having vast experience with both, I will always chose the one closest at hand. Macbeau sends... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdbutler 563 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 A press release for a poll? Well, I guess this settles that argument then. My Saiga x 39 sucks, can't hit air, and if I'm lucky enough to hit a bad guy with it, he'll tell me to get a real man's caliber (5.56 mm). Time to get one of those HSLD "tacticool" AR's. [/sarcasm] Give me a platform that goes bang every time, and I'll never second guess it under fire. More important than which is "prettier" IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elia.jon1 1 Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 i agree with the guy up there ^ ar or ak, it just matters which one i grab first.... .....or which one has more ammo at the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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