Boomstick12 11 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 ...snip Too bad there isn't an emoticon for a Ryder truck parked in front of ATF headquarters. ...snip Are you kidding me? I am an Okie and find your remark highly distasteful and it reflects poorly on the Saiga community. I think you owe a bunch of people a retraction and apology. Meh...I, for one, don't. Back on track, Mike is a vendor that says we might be in trouble. Another vendor, who I think is wrong, and partially willfully blind, says we don't have a problem....unless he's changed his mind at this point. And yet the "study" results still aren't out. But I guess it's been a couple of weeks since I've seen a thread like this so let's have another 10+ pager where no real answer is found and no one changes anyone else's mind! At least we can all rest assured knowing Bridis will come in here and say something completely wrong and asinine, multiple people will call him on it, and he'll swear he is right and they are wrong! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GunStuff4U.com 4 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 ...snip Too bad there isn't an emoticon for a Ryder truck parked in front of ATF headquarters. ...snip Are you kidding me? I am an Okie and find your remark highly distasteful and it reflects poorly on the Saiga community. I think you owe a bunch of people a retraction and apology. Meh...I, for one, don't. ...snip I guess making lite of killing 19 kids in a daycare is OK with you as long as they threaten to take your Saiga? Some serious WTF going on here. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caspian 32 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Also, the suggestion was made that he have a sale, to move as many items as possible, sure as heck sounds like sound advice, given the fact there may be no chance to sell them at all, for any profit, if the bad times occur. I dont understand why he wouldnt be able to sell drums anymore? There would still be thousands of owners out there who will always want to buy more drums/mags for their guns. There wont be any NEW owners out there...but none the less, there is still money to be made...Just not as much... ya'll are reading it wrong. I was not implying that drums would go away when (if) saigas do. I was merely trying to get him to put drums on sale again so i could stock up. I loved the $80 price and only bought 2. Shoulda bought more. Now i have to wait. Just hoping it would happen sooner rather than later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steppe Sweeper 22 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) I guess making lite of killing 19 kids in a daycare is OK with you as long as they threaten to take your Saiga? Some serious WTF going on here. Okay retracted. Didn't mean to imply anything about OKC, but can see 'Ryder Truck' could make allusions. No hard feelings. But still, Fuck the atf. Edited April 2, 2011 by Steppe Sweeper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jeep297 20 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 If the Saiga 12 ends up safe in the end and all this worry is for nothing I'm really curious how low they will start selling for. I imagine there are a ton of Saigas being sat on right now, all pending the outcome. One way or another the current prices are probably the midpoint. If nothing happens I could see them drop as far as $350 by some desperate individuals, but if they are banned it's anyone's guess how far they'll climb. Just look how cheap ARs can be found now. After the election a Colt 6920 sold easily for $2000, now I've seen a few as low as $850. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guns Are Great 140 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 (edited) Edited April 4, 2011 by Guns Are Great 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.C.MORRISON 494 Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 I have to agree with GUNS ARE GREAT . from my perspective its just more unelected bureau / agency were going to justify our existence crap. They couldnt care less about the cost, just tax money right? and look at the wonderful job their doing on our southern boarder by purposefully allowing weapons to flow to the cartels. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Obama/Holder/Traver and all the rest of this particular Administration are not just Pro Gun Control, they are rabidly Anti 2A, and Traver is in favor of forcible confiscation. This is just the beginning and just a stepping stone for even more draconian actions by the ATF. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mephis 82 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Well my ffl says that AR's are going to get even cheaper and he and his ATF connection has been accurate so far about the import delays and timing? watch for more regulations soon they say? I did a google search on some of this and found several gun manufac. been bought by Cerberus Capitals Freedom Group= Remington, Thompson Center, And maybe a large part of S&W with TC, Bushmaster, DPMS, Marlin, and recently as 2010, IZHMASH. Just so you know, as far as I could find George Soros owns Cerberus and the Freedom Group?? Conspiracy? google it and see what you can find? Izhmash was going bankrupt and freedom group bailed them out or bought them?? even found a link on this forum talking about it??? but you may trust your elected criminals and your local BATFE. but i think they all are Traitors To the Constitution of the United States Of America and the REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS! we also need three laws added to politicians and anyone with authority over the public laws i.e., If found corrupt = death sentence and seizure of all family assets, term limits, and no lifetime benefits period. Problem solved! Oh joy, corporate American has out-grown the government, and seized the resources to effectively shut the country down. Doesn't capitalism work so well? Of course, it could be like Russia... Where a national treasure of a business, Izhmash, is filing bankruptcy over $265,000. Edited April 3, 2011 by Tombs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin.rose0@gmail.com 62 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 . Just so you know, as far as I could find George Soros owns Cerberus and the Freedom Group?? Conspiracy? google it and see what you can find? Izhmash was going bankrupt and freedom group bailed them out or bought them?? even found a link on this forum talking about it??? It's odd, but when I look at google for FG and Soros all I find are conspiracy sites and people talking about rumors. Mostly rumors from several years ago. It all looks very self-referential without any actual data. Anyone have a reliable site, like Businessweek, Bloomberg, WSJ, etc that says any of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Capitalism has raised the standard of living of the entire world. Capitalism , real capitalism, is not the problem. When government interferes and plays favorites is the problem. By the way, Soros is no capitalist, he is a sociopath socialist manipulator. The very idea that he has anything at all to do with buying gun companys scares the shit out of me. He would sabatoge the companys like he does currencys. I hope that is all consperiecy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ignition 9 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 If anything it looks like someone misread who was associated with who. I cant find any info of izhmash going bankrupt or soros having any financial dealings with cereberus/freedom group Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guns Are Great 140 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Edited April 4, 2011 by Guns Are Great 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ignition 9 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 The thing is, there are no links to soros and cereberus and/or freedom group 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guns Are Great 140 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) Edited April 4, 2011 by Guns Are Great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dunedain 44 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 A bunch of filthy communist traitors. One day when true patriots are in full control once again, things will be restored to 1776, and traitors will be remembered... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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grendelz 61 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) any chance of moving this thread to the political section? this thread has gone wayyyyyyyyyyy off track. Edited April 3, 2011 by grendelz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 any chance of moving this thread to the political section? this thread has gone wayyyyyyyyyyy off track. If it bothers you than it should be moved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bagelthief 1 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 any chance of moving this thread to the political section? this thread has gone wayyyyyyyyyyy off track. I think threads generally get more interesting as they transform...Relax and let the reconfiguration saturate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grendelz 61 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 any chance of moving this thread to the political section? this thread has gone wayyyyyyyyyyy off track. I think threads generally get more interesting as they transform...Relax and let the reconfiguration saturate i do too. but,we go from Mike D. talking about only pre-ATF study approved shipments coming into the country. all the way to international conspiracies. We went from point A to point Z. I'm not saying its bad reading material, just wrong section Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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lbsrdi 1,078 Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Hey king of the Hill, would you mind, if someone else hasn't used it already, I need to change my screen name to "Dale A. Gribble"??? I can't keep you from doing it but you already have a pretty good screen name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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