mikeNM 8 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Anyone Actually seen any of the "Mike Davidson" stuff??? Is this guy for real.... seems to offer all WE want... then the "delays" excuseses, I got a double charge on the drum and he could'nt refund it.... so I cancelled the whole mess...now we have the mag well, BHO, come on COBRA, Have you ACTUALLY SEEN THE STUFF??? Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 some of us got a little faith left in people.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Anyone Actually seen any of the "Mike Davidson" stuff??? Is this guy for real.... seems to offer all WE want... then the "delays" excuseses, I got a double charge on the drum and he could'nt refund it.... so I cancelled the whole mess...now we have the mag well, BHO, come on COBRA, Have you ACTUALLY SEEN THE STUFF??? Mike mikeAZ I have taken it to a few gunshows and and also to Ohio Rapid Fire and other local gunshops. Do you think I'm some kind of computer wiz or something to fabricate all this "stuff" in cyber space? Hell, I do good to access my website. Also, I told you I don't know how you was double charged on the deposit and did issue a refund through the processor. I sent you many, many emails asking if you received it yet as well and have a record of them all, I even sent you an email saying that it looked like I was going to have to issue the double deposit charge refund by money order because I was having trouble with my cc processing company. But you did a charge back. I didn't appreciate that either. I was trying to get it straightened out for you. The lrbho isn't mine, shows how much you are paying attention. It is Jeric's. Do you mean the bolt release? Yep, more of my fancy computer magic. Do you want me to post all the emails I sent you? And your somewhat rude from the start emails to me? Thanks for exposing yourself here. I had already made a personal note to myself to watch for future orders from you. Thankfully I can count the guys like you a one hand so far. Do me a favor and order a WM instead. Everyone Else I have had a very good experience over all and can't complain really. I truly can count the bad customer experiences on one hand so far. In fact this guy has been the only problem so I have 3 finger and a thumb left! Everybody has been very good with the delays and I really appreciate that. It is only getting closer everyday. There is the possibility of more delays though and hope you guys can hang in there with me if they do arise. I have learned (the hard way) that some of the people involved with different parts of the project aren't meeting the dates they originally told me (for what ever cause or reason). I'm not really complaining about this either because I know it is going to get done regardless. I just like to be accurate in what I say and it has so far kept me from being able to do that. Hopefully it goes as scheduled from here but please understand that a lot of it is out of my hands at this point and I am waiting like everyone else. Very sorry for the delays. And thanks again everyone else for your orders, understanding, support, and patience!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 some of us got a little faith left in people.... Thanks Joe!!!!! Love ya bro!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hkusp45 8 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Yes, he exists and is for real. Mistakes with charges and other things happen especially when starting an internet business not to mention working on products at the same time. Trust me, I'm doing the same thing now and it is a bit more work than most people think! Delays are to be expected and if I recall when I ordered mine he explained quite clearly that this might happen so there is really no reason to complain about delays when its printed in black and white. I'd rather have delays and get a product that works than have no delays and get a product with issues ie: wraithfaker. It's a free country so if you think you could get something to market and do better then get to it! I'm sure we would all be interested in new stuff to buy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 +1 on all that. Why do people wanna start so much shit lately? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 MikeAZ: Relax, Mike is good folks and worth trusting and waiting for. I am so sure of this that if you show me that he screwed you out of a nickel I will personally reimburse you. I am not affiliated with Mike Davidson, I own no stock, but I do trust him. This offer is available to YOU ONLY since you are the first and probably the last to question his integrity. No offense taken and none intended, just my opinion backed by a few bucks. 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaGroaner 2 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Mike's got my money and I got no worries. The dopey OP probably double-clicked himself a double deposit. Mike's been informative and has explained every delayu to my complete satisfaction. I can count my bad experiences here on one hand also... but I only have a thumb and a pinky left and I am quite sure Mike is not going to use either one of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mavrick16o 6 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 ive already told the forum my order is with md, and id rather have it late and right than early and a heap crap, by the way did anyone notice wm turned off all post on thier youtube videos? why? and mike as soon as your taking orders for the magwell and your 10 rd mag pm me ill be the first in line if these........ well ill leave it at that everyone already knows what side their on, dont let me down md, dont let the s-12 family down, i have faith!! matt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Down with internet fights ): It's my opinion that Mike's the real deal and that good things come to those that wait. Time will tell. Mike, don't get baited into anymore b.s., refund his $ and write him off. If things work out when it's time to release, there will be more than enough takers. AGP is a fine example of what can happen when good ideas and designs become reality...don't get bruised up in the mean time. Goodnight all....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mavrick16o 6 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Down with internet fights ): It's my opinion that Mike's the real deal and that good things come to those that wait. Time will tell. Mike, don't get baited into anymore b.s., refund his $ and write him off. If things work out when it's time to release, there will be more than enough takers. AGP is a fine example of what can happen when good ideas and designs become reality...don't get bruised up in the mean time. Goodnight all....... here here +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
philg80 1 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 +1 for Mike D!!! He is as straight and forthright as they come. I had 3 posts in this forum and Mike took a huge chance trusting me with my very first deal. Mike is one of the biggest supporters of the Saiga line of weapons and I trust whatever products he comes out with will be of the highest quality because that is what he wants for himself. If Mike was taking deposits for his magwell then I would be on the list without a second thought and he hasn't even given a tentative date for release that I am aware of. Lurkers should beware who they attack without provocation. Certain individuals are VERY respected and have huge influence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I trust Mike D. Then again, I haven't sent him any money yet. Just wait on it, no project like this goes on schedule. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 OH Boy, I can hardly wait until it's my turn to play Monkey in the Middle...........Keep yer chin up Mike, you got some pretty good feedback here............and this pic really tells the story of anyone who has tried to get a new product to market, and had a bad day......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mikeNM 8 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Seems you have a LOT of support! Hope you deserve it? Got tired of your trying to resolve the issue... . I too have kept all the e-mails...seems your a little thin skinned? Just asked a question on this form, still America isn't it??? Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
E-TAC 47 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 I've delt with Mike in the past, and it was all good. To come out with a good drum it takes time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Seems you have a LOT of support! Hope you deserve it? Got tired of your trying to resolve the issue... . I too have kept all the e-mails...seems your a little thin skinned? Just asked a question on this form, still America isn't it??? Mike You do have a valid point. I think one purpose of this forum is to clear the air. Once I get back into production, I hope I get at least one chance to resolve any issues, but then, hey this is the place. Too many unresolved issues will bite you in the ass. I think the old rule of thumb, ten happy customers will bring you one, while one unhappy customer will lose you ten really applies these days. Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rickstcarr 0 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 As long as I've been 'lurking' around this forum M. Davidson seems to take the time answer near every question or reply to almost any comment without hesitation. He's a good business man who seems to me to be more helpful in making great things for the Saiga 12 and share it with his peers rather than attempting to make serious bucks on his much wanted product line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hkusp45 8 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Good thing your not in the NFA buying world MikeAZ, you'd never survive the wait! Some of us are still waiting for the Ares Shrike which was a several thousand dollar deposit and 5 years later we are still waiting! You have to decide if the product and ultimate investment is worth it. I'm confident enough to bet ya a C note that it will beat the WraithFaker hands down just in reliability alone. The exposed dirt collector design of the faker sucks period. Just look at the French Chauchat machine gun and its exposed mag design and see what a disasterous failure that POS was. Someone in research and development should have grabbed a history book! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkin 0 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Good thing your not in the NFA buying world MikeAZ, you'd never survive the wait! Some of us are still waiting for the Ares Shrike which was a several thousand dollar deposit and 5 years later we are still waiting! You have to decide if the product and ultimate investment is worth it. I'm confident enough to bet ya a C note that it will beat the WraithFaker hands down just in reliability alone. The exposed dirt collector design of the faker sucks period. Just look at the French Chauchat machine gun and its exposed mag design and see what a disasterous failure that POS was. Someone in research and development should have grabbed a history book! Noooooo! Not the Shrike! Not here.. You had to bring it up.. Damn you! I'm still waiting. I even forgot about it until your post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Seems you have a LOT of support! Hope you deserve it? Got tired of your trying to resolve the issue... . I too have kept all the e-mails...seems your a little thin skinned? Just asked a question on this form, still America isn't it??? Mike Someone with "thin skin" would have never made it past a couple phone calls on a project like the magwell, not to mention a project like the drum. Seems you are showing rationalization. (rationalization: seeing your own faults in someone else that doesn't really posses them) Never said nothing about you asking questions and only asked you a few back. Sorry it didn't work out as quickly as you thought it should. Truly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 6, 2007 Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 Good thing your not in the NFA buying world MikeAZ, you'd never survive the wait! Some of us are still waiting for the Ares Shrike which was a several thousand dollar deposit and 5 years later we are still waiting! You have to decide if the product and ultimate investment is worth it. I'm confident enough to bet ya a C note that it will beat the WraithFaker hands down just in reliability alone. The exposed dirt collector design of the faker sucks period. Just look at the French Chauchat machine gun and its exposed mag design and see what a disasterous failure that POS was. Someone in research and development should have grabbed a history book! Noooooo! Not the Shrike! Not here.. You had to bring it up.. Damn you! I'm still waiting. I even forgot about it until your post. You guys haven't got yours yet? ORF received theirs. I got to check it out when I showed them the magwell. If you ask me it was worth the wait. Also because they was in early it is worth double what they paid for it by the time they received it. Very long wait though! Also I want to thank you all AGAIN for standing with me on this!!!!! It really makes the load easier to carry! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 I only know Mike from this forum, but I trust him unought that I sent him some $$$ and am waiting patiently. See me waiting patiently. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted November 7, 2007 Report Share Posted November 7, 2007 some of us got a little faith left in people.... Thanks Joe!!!!! Love ya bro!! No Prob Mike... besides you think I'd trash talk ya before I got my drum? That being said some of us waited alot longer on 10rd mags than on your drum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunrunner123 0 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 Anyone Actually seen any of the "Mike Davidson" stuff??? Is this guy for real.... seems to offer all WE want... then the "delays" excuseses, I got a double charge on the drum and he could'nt refund it.... so I cancelled the whole mess...now we have the mag well, BHO, come on COBRA, Have you ACTUALLY SEEN THE STUFF??? Mike Mike you have got to be kidding me. I think you are the one who seems to be thinned skinned IMHO. You were double charged and didnt have the patients to work it out? You do understand this is a new PROTOTYPE PRODUCT and a new company and new products take time and I would guess this one is worth waiting for. I was new to this forum 6-7 months ago and Mike Davidson helped me in so many ways from helping me figure out what I was doing as to the build of my S12 and has offered on many occasions to lend me parts until I could replace them. This guy has my vote. I think you have mis judged him and possibly got off to a bad start. Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 everyone needs to take a chill pill here. I see valid points from all sides of this, so dont misconstrude anything that I am saying or doing as taking sides. I need to speak with you Mike D. Im busy for most of the business day today, need to speak with you later nothing, if you are availible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 9, 2007 Report Share Posted November 9, 2007 everyone needs to take a chill pill here. I see valid points from all sides of this, so dont misconstrude anything that I am saying or doing as taking sides. I need to speak with you Mike D. Im busy for most of the business day today, need to speak with you later nothing, if you are availible. This even should be good for the call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Mike Davidson is a sonofabitch. He miraculously comes up with new ways to suck money out of your pockets, then has the audacity to actually answer any question you have PERSONALLY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Mike Davidson is a sonofabitch. He miraculously comes up with new ways to suck money out of your pockets, then has the audacity to actually answer any question you have PERSONALLY. I'm sorry. I'll have to work on that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quinci956 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Report Share Posted November 10, 2007 Mike Davidson is a sonofabitch. He miraculously comes up with new ways to suck money out of your pockets, then has the audacity to actually answer any question you have PERSONALLY. I'm sorry. I'll have to work on that! Without going back and searching, when is the newest possible release time on these drums? I have been away awhile getting personal issues taken care of. I guess I can put some sort of deposit on one? I'm ready lets do this. I got a WM on the way now I want one of yours. I'm sure if I looked through the forum a little I could find answers but I'm just lazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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