one2za 7 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 How Do You Drive The Rear Sight Out of The Dovetail Slot? Are there some pointers you can give me on getting the rear sight to budge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsc91 9 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I've never done it, but I'd use a brass punch and a hammer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polak 10 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Push down, and pull out? I've seen a video somewhere, and it seemed simple enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
one2za 7 Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 (edited) Push down, and pull out? I've seen a video somewhere, and it seemed simple enough. Not an AK type rear leaf. I'm talking about the stock Saiga 12 rear notch sight that's slid in sideways in a dovetail slot like this one. I've wacked it with a steel punch after oiling and tried heating up as well. Edited March 30, 2010 by one2za Quote Link to post Share on other sites
destroytec 2 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 i cut mine out when it was time the krebs to go in. got to love the dremel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bounce12 407 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Push down, and pull out? I've seen a video somewhere, and it seemed simple enough. Not an AK type rear leaf. I'm talking about the stock Saiga 12 rear notch sight that's slid in sideways in a dovetail slot. I've wacked it with a steel punch after oiling and tried heating up as well. I've heard people say that you have to hit that bitch harder than you'd ever think you should hit a gun. I'd think there is some tool (with a threaded crank) that you can use to drift that thing out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
astrowrench 9 Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Should knock out from right to left. a good punch and an 18oz ball pein astrowrench Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Should knock out from right to left. a good punch and an 18oz ball pein astrowrench This. I used a 5lb shop hammer. Using one of those and a punch.. trust me, it'll move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I ran a hack saw down the middle till it was almost through, then knocked it out with a drift punch before installing the Krebs peep sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
one2za 7 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) I don't have a vice. I've been sitting the trunnion on a piece of oak as close to the sight as possible. I'd hate to mess up the trunnion. If I try again and fail, I might cut it out. I want to try a Marbles Bullseye Sight Edited March 31, 2010 by one2za Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I don't have a vice. I've been sitting the trunnion on a piece of oak as close to the sight as possible. I'd hate to mess up the trunnion. If I try again and fail, I might cut it out. I want to try a Marbles Bullseye Sight i beat on it for half an hour before saying fuck it and dremeled it out, just save yourself the hassel and cut the fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) ^ That sight looks interesting. Once you get it installed, you'll have to give us a range report. If you don't have a vice, you might want to use the cutting method. On a side note, you need to get a vice! Edited March 31, 2010 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Mine hammered out real nice,.. from the left to the right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
one2za 7 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Mine hammered out real nice,.. from the left to the right. Sounds like what our Republic needs right about now! Edited March 31, 2010 by one2za Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If you plan on keeping the weapon and the sight that you want, like others said, cut it out. I bought a Wilton 360 rotating jaw vise from Lowes and it has proven to make everything easier. I have seen them at Home Depot as well. They are about $60 and worth every penny. You might want to get some Wilton rubber pads for it while you are at it. All of my rifles have ended up in this vise at one time or another. Spring for one and mount it to an old desk that has some weight to it. You will achieve happiness.... And yes PA, that sight does look interesting.... One, Please, do tell.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
africamagical 5 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Mine hammered out real nice,.. from the left to the right. Sounds like what our Republic needs right about now! count it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rickj427 15 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I also used a 5 lb. hammer. However, I soaked it with some PB Blaster for about 15-20. Then I took the hammer and a large punch and smacked the sh*t out of it. After the first bit of movement, it was pretty easy after that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elia.jon1 1 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 you have to wrap the end of the reciever in leather and chuck it up in a vice, then use a brass punc and hammer......if you try to punch and hammer without the vice it just wont work right, but be careful not to tighten it up too much....but it cant give...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've had good luck with a hammer and brass punch. If it doesn't start moving with a couple whacks one way I try the other side. I haven't even needed a vice. That said. With current Russian engineering, it varies. I like the band saw method if all else fails. Cut 3/4 through and then punch it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Put it in a vice with wood to buffer the gun from the jaws of the vice. Pound on the stock sight with a brass punch, and a 22oz estwing harder than you think a gun should be hit(I recomend driving it toward the side with the charging handle) Works for me everytime Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msrdiver 42 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I tried both a steel and a brass punch with a standard hammer. NO GO! I couldn't bring myself to use the 3lb hammer so, I drove her to a smith. The next day he laughed and said it took him nearly a 1/2 hour to free it. I then took a triangle file to the sight so that it would adjust easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 WD 40 on it, then used a brass punch and hammer. Hammer it from left to right. It only moves a tiny bit at first, but once you get it loose it comes out pretty easy.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Classic case of needing a bigger hammer.... or to quote GOB from years ago "beat her like she burnt the borscht!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
havok 21 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I used one of the tool's in the tool kit that came with the gun and a hammer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
one2za 7 Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanx for all of the helpful (and humorous) tips. Won't get a chance for a re-match for another day or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Beat it like the bitch burned the borscht! Use a big brass bar and a 3# hammer,if you have a pig of plumbers lead to lay the gun on it helps otherwise a phone book will do. A small hammer will batter the crap out of the work, a big hammer has the mass necessary to overcome friction and the grip of the factory interference fit, the peen, and the gloppy paint that are all holding things together! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 If all the above fails............hit it with your purse. Just messin bro, some are tight, but with a bit of support and enough force they'll all drive out (It a bit un-nerving until you've done it) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msrdiver 42 Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 A bit unnerving is an understatement. And no, don't ruin your Gucci or Gabanna purse on the Saiga rear sight. Respect the purse bro. It probably cost more than the initial Saiga price, all the mods, and your truck combined! Boys like the toys that make 'em noise! Even if they just oooo and mmmm a little (hee hee). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
one2za 7 Posted April 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) WHOO HOO! I finally got the motherfather off, with no damage to the S12 (or myself for that matter)! Who's the girly man now, huh? I put the new one on, (had some filing to do), and sighted it in at home with a Ncstar 12 ga. bore sighter, (which I will no doubt sell soon). Not sure when I'll get to the range, probably next Friday or Saturday. Thanks again for the moral support. Edited April 4, 2010 by one2za Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Well there you go bro, like a lot in life, the first is always the hardest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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