Nailbomb 10,221 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Thank you so much, now does anyone know if these rails extend further foward then the factory handgaurd? Then comes the hardeset thing deciding which one i want tri or quad? I don't believe so, i chopped my SGm down to kindof match the look these have and i do believe they end at the end of the gas block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitamink 90 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 H@ly F&ck!ng Sh!t man, are you guys serious?!!!!! First off let me say that i've never been more impressed with a retailer and a manufacturer in my life. Second let me say that i will be purchasing anything i need in the future through tac 47. You guys didn't have to refund the difference, I didn't complain or even ask you to help me out and you did it anyway. What a class act! Even the story about helping the guy out with a broken part is great as i know that would make me feel good as a consumer if i were in his shoes! After i read this: "Sir I believe that fastest Land mammal is Obama, with a Cheetah chasing" i laughed so hard i think i pooped a little. Just kidding. If Cameron or Tac47 need anything in Indy I'll do what i can to make it happen. Keep up the stellar work, VitaminK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
idwin 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So the quad rail can come apart and actually be ran a tri rail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gemmons 23 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Just placed my order from Chaos' website for the $99.98 amount. Good deal Cameron nice to see a business man as yourself giving us guys a break for a great product. Lets keep our American businesses going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Before I measure tomorrow, does anyone here currently use a Chaos quad-rail with a Krebs sight or otherwise know if that sight will clear a Chaos quad-rail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Genocide 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Truly spectacular! we need more fellas in the gun business like you, Cameron. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goingpro 2 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 how about the HK friendly quad rail? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum! If I didn't already have a CHAOS rail or if I had another S12, I'd be all over this! Big to Cameron. Nice to see a company look out for it's customers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brvt1000 2 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 OMG, why am I unemployed right now! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 just to confirm, is it $100 for the tri-rail and $100 for the top rail that mounts to the tri-rail? surely its not $100 for either the tri-rail or $100 for the full quad set up is it?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1mile50 102 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 surely its not $100 for either the tri-rail or $100 for the full quad set up is it?! Yep! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waynebar 52 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Can someone clarify the difference between the original rail that was offered and this rail? Is the difference that this new rail is a casting and the original was machined? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aresv 49 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) just to confirm, is it $100 for the tri-rail and $100 for the top rail that mounts to the tri-rail?surely its not $100 for either the tri-rail or $100 for the full quad set up is it?! If you look at the pictures, the tri rail has 2 bolt-on side panels that cover the sides of the gas tube but not the top. I figure the cost to manufacture those 2 parts is similar to the cost of making the quad top piece. EDIT: added pic of a tri rail. Edited June 29, 2009 by aresv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TTR 1 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) I paid full price up front for a tri-rail through Chaos web site.. No harm in asking. If you have in paid full price on a per-order before this sale, your fucking screwed, just kidding. But isn't that the way it always goes, you buy a fucking car you like at full price and the very next day its $5000.00 cheaper, shit! All who paid in full and still waiting for they're rail will be refunded the difference. I pre-ordered a tri-rail, I paid in full, I am still patiently waiting for the product. Thanks for the great deal. Edited June 29, 2009 by TTR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Well, lets answer a few questions, seeing how Mr Cam is a friend of mine, and CGW is a dealer for him. we'll go backwards - The difference in product is that the older runs were billet aluminum and cut completely froma block. Cameron has gone to great length to find a US manufacturer to provide him with the SAME metal alloy as he was using, but in extrusion form, to save him a lot of time and money on the manufacturing process. He is NOT using a cheap extrusion, but rather one of the most expensive types of extrusion and alloys. He isnt cheeseballing this thing. Yes, that price is for EITHER rail setup. 100 bucks your choice, as in his ad above. The HK quad is exclusive through Tac47, and is not part of this sale. The tril rail does work with HK sights, according to Cameron. Unsure of the Krebs rear, but I removed my front sight, and can not get a sight picture with the rear factory dovetail. I have both rails, and this isnt an issue with the tri rail setup. The base of the rail system, is common to both the quad and tri rail. I have a tril rail with a quad rail top for demonstration purposes, and the tri-rail and quad rail specific components are interchangeable. The rail sits flush to the front end of the gas block. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfmedic 8 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Its Chaos at Chaos, due to our soft economy, and my spirit for the 4th of July, I'm offer people a chance to own the top U.S. made rail system offered for Saiga 12 for only $99.98. We have a large batch due back from laser marking July 15, but it could be July 20th or near to that date for sure. Go make your deposit, and happy 4th July! No dealers please. Limited two per order. Sales ends July 31 Cameron you are so awesome. Im finally going to be able to get. God bless the USA!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waynebar 52 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 Bvamp thank you for the information. I'm familiar with aluminum castings, I have no problem with a quality casting. I had no doubt Cameron would do a quality casting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 it isnt cast. it is a high pressure extrusion that he is cutting them from now, and is of the best quality that you can get in the USA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitamink 90 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I've told everyone i know that owns an s12 and they're flipping out too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 ...Unsure of the Krebs rear, but I removed my front sight, and can not get a sight picture with the rear factory dovetail. I have both rails, and this isnt an issue with the tri rail setup. The base of the rail system, is common to both the quad and tri rail. I have a tril rail with a quad rail top for demonstration purposes, and the tri-rail and quad rail specific components are interchangeable... So you're saying that if you're planning to use a Chaos rail with Krebs sights, you can't really go wrong ordering either the quad or tri-rail, since the quad rail is identical to the tri-rail until you attach the 4th, top rail, correct? If so I'll just order the quad and leave off the top attachment if it won't work with the Krebs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aresv 49 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So you're saying that if you're planning to use a Chaos rail with Krebs sights, you can't really go wrong ordering either the quad or tri-rail, since the quad rail is identical to the tri-rail until you attach the 4th, top rail, correct? If so I'll just order the quad and leave off the top attachment if it won't work with the Krebs. If you look at the pictures, the tri rail includes 2 side pieces that the quad rail does not come with. If you get the quad rail and take the top rail off, you won't have those side pieces. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hick 0 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 So you're saying that if you're planning to use a Chaos rail with Krebs sights, you can't really go wrong ordering either the quad or tri-rail, since the quad rail is identical to the tri-rail until you attach the 4th, top rail, correct? If so I'll just order the quad and leave off the top attachment if it won't work with the Krebs. That's the question I have also. I want to buy one but not sure which one will work best with my set-up. Awesome deal your running. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clifton 354 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 I love Guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fxhart 14 Posted June 29, 2009 Report Share Posted June 29, 2009 OMG, why am I unemployed right now! +1 fk'n 1! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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bigcec1 72 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 +1∞ Camron I wish more companies would have the ideals like you do. And I will do my best to keep trying to buy from you when I have the $ just have to sell more plasma in my spare time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aresv 49 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Extrusions are just fine. Bicycle seat tubes are often made from aluminum extrusions. If those are strong enough for my fat ass then an aluminum rail is certainly sturdy enough for any abuse you can think up. Also, extruded shapes require less machining and waste a lot less material. I bet those machined versions started with a good 10 pounds just to hog it out down to a rail that weighs 10-12 ounces. That's a lot of wasted aluminum chips that have to be scooped up and recycled, and plus it's expensive to grind through gigantic pieces of bar stock, both in terms of the materials cost and tool life. Dare I say that going to an extruded rail is...... GREEN? lol. Al Gore would love it. Going to an extruded rail is THE way to go if you've got a proven design and want to crank up the volume and reduce waste. Hell I wish I had a second S-12 cause I'd buy another rail in a heartbeat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgcubana 0 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Not bad for my first post; deposit on 2X tri-rail It was the promise of the UTG system that peaked my interest in picking up a Saiga-12 recently. Now it's to my benefit that they were delayed in their initial shipment. The quad has the asthetics, but for me the tri rail will be more functional for my sight picture. Its Chaos at Chaos, due to our soft economy, and my spirit for the 4th of July, I'm offer people a chance to own the top U.S. made rail system offered for Saiga 12 for only $99.98. We have a large batch due back from laser marking July 15, but it could be July 20th or near to that date for sure. Go make your deposit, and happy 4th July! No dealers please. Limited two per order. Sales ends July 31 Cameron you are so awesome. Im finally going to be able to get. God bless the USA!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcec1 72 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Extrusions are just fine. Bicycle seat tubes are often made from aluminum extrusions. If those are strong enough for my fat ass then an aluminum rail is certainly sturdy enough for any abuse you can think up. Also, extruded shapes require less machining and waste a lot less material. I bet those machined versions started with a good 10 pounds just to hog it out down to a rail that weighs 10-12 ounces. That's a lot of wasted aluminum chips that have to be scooped up and recycled, and plus it's expensive to grind through gigantic pieces of bar stock, both in terms of the materials cost and tool life. Dare I say that going to an extruded rail is...... GREEN? lol. Al Gore would love it. Going to an extruded rail is THE way to go if you've got a proven design and want to crank up the volume and reduce waste. Hell I wish I had a second S-12 cause I'd buy another rail in a heartbeat. Thats right saving the planet one Rail at a time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lipadj46 2 Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 I just want to say it's nice to see a US manufacturer step up and compete with the Asian companies and offer a better product for the same price. I never wanted a rail but shit I may just pick one up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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