MikeD 541 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Who out there has trouble cycling the cheap bulk pack ammo from their 12, 20, or .410 Saiga? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 That is a loaded question.....where is this headed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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lbsrdi 1,078 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Whatever you have I want one. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeD 541 Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yes, I guess it is so loaded everyone smells a rat. I was going to get some people together with cycling problems and send a few samples out. I guess all I have to do is read a few pages of thread titles and pick some canidates. That's what I'll do. In the mean time here is a new thread I started. Click Thread Link 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vitamink 90 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'm your man mike feel free to send me one for a full report! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim2shu 48 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Hey mike when I first got My saiga it would not take the bulk pack stuff then I done a port and polish job and then it would shoot the 3" stuff no problem, then iwon your gas plug and muzzle break. Took it out yesterday to shoot it for the first time with the new gas plug, I had a few bulk pack2/34in 7.5 shot rounds and I got a box of remington no6 shot 2/34in had the gas plug on setting 5 and all rounds were 2/34 in. It. Had FTE on every round was wondering if it was the gas plug. Or going to 2/34in. Shells.be happy to test something for you Edited March 22, 2011 by DOGG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Yes, I guess it is so loaded everyone smells a rat. I was going to get some people together with cycling problems and send a few samples out. I guess all I have to do is read a few pages of thread titles and pick some canidates. That's what I'll do. In the mean time here is a new thread I started. Click Thread Link Errr.... My gun doesn't cycle (less lethal bean bags) very well... Just picked one of your pucks up to play around with. Maybe if business ever slows, I'll actually have time to try it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FORKLIFT352 63 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I do....I went to the range Sat. after I drilled out 2 of the 3 ports to 1/16 and one to 3/32. I dident know that my front sight fell out. I took out the MD plug and went back to factory. The Fed 3 1/4 Dram 2 3/4 7 1/2 shot did ok but not as well as before drilling.( prob because of F sight) On Sun. drilled all three to 3 /32 theeeeeeen I saw the F sight was missing. So I pluged it up with set screw and did a little hammer profiling and polish. I can rack one back a lot smoother.But I can't get to the range for a few weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stuken3 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I have a Saiga 20 which cycles Remington low brass fine, but will not cycle Winchester or Federal low brass at all. If you think this would help with the problem, I'll gladly buy one. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 mine likes federal but hates win and rem bulk. I only have 80 rounds down the pipe so far did a little pollishing other than that stock. I would be glad to test. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mine runs way better with a V-Plug but still has issues with low brass. I have had the bolt, carrier, and FCG re-profiled and polished. Nothing done to the gas ports. I have to run setting 2 for 3" 00 Buck and setting 3 for 2 3/4' 00 Buck and Slugs. Does this sound normal for the V-Plug Mike? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spenceman 5 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 My SBS won't cycle that stuff at all, if you want I'll test one out for you. Granted I think my ports need to be enlarged further before anything will help, but I'll still give it a go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fauxknight 30 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'm having trouble with low brass. Its still in the break in period, I've run 150 rounds of assorted high brass on 1 and haven't had any issues with that, but most low brass won't even cycle on 2. The only thing not buckshot or slugs that has cycled was some #8 Winchester AA Super Target. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parkerson 9 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) Well???.....whats the scoop? Edited March 22, 2011 by Parkerson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmzzl 146 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 My Saiga 12 cycled low brass fine out of the box. After the conversion however, I could only cycle the high brass stuff. That's too expensive, and hard on a 135lb guy. I polished and lightly reprofiled the hammer, under Paulyski's careful guidance. This helped a bit, still some FTE's every few rounds. Luckily, I got a low brass reliability kit from CSS, which included a Gunfixers Gas Knob, E-Tac Twisterpuck, and lighter recoil spring. I tried all combinations of these in the gun, and what worked best was the Gunfixers Gas Knob, factory puck, and light recoil spring. I couldn't get the Twisterpuck to work at all for me. I hardly see FTE's now, but still happens every now and then. My problem is, I have to change out the recoil spring every time I want to run some high brass. That means I have to carry my little "tackle box" containing the spring and some other spare parts in, and it gets to be a hassle. I've put about 250 rounds through it, and it still won't cycle with the factory spring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butch1911 12 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mine won't cycle low brass, high brass seems to work fine. With low brass it becomes a single shot. I have the gunfixer plug in it(came with the gun). I have Pauly working his magic on the bolt group right now. Hopefully it will cycle better when he is done. If not I will be looking to purchase the booster piston to see if it helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrOneEyedBoh 14 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) MD, It would almost seem to be a no brainer on the puck right? Even if you dont NEED it to make your gun cycle more smooth, it would help with more gas against the piston right? Edited March 22, 2011 by MrOneEyedBoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blwnv8 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I'd be happy to test this plug for you. I would imagine it could only help my problem. Win bulk turns my auto into a bolt action, shells hang up every time. Anything that would help make my gun cycle better would be great. I am also considering the md gas plug as well. I just hate to start throwing money at it hoping to fix the issue. Federal cycles better than the winchester but I'm still having fte issues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Mine cycles good from the shoulder, but not from the hip like your ad says. I'd be more that willing to try one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spenceman 5 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Well Mike, I was going to hang around and hope for a freebie test product, but I read the thread when you introduced these pucks, and I'll just buy it. Mostly because of the way you stand by your products and won't put your name on anything that doesn't deserve it. You say it boosts reliability, so I'll throw it in my low brass kit and see if she does the trick. Besides, I've dumped so much trial and error money into my Saiga that another $16 won't hurt. Here's to capitalism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unearthlyevil 2 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 My S12 actually cycles Federal bulk well, Winchester/Remington are a no go. I purchased the low brass reliability kit from CSS, I use the puck that came in the kit with the factory gas plug, and stock spring. My gun actually cycles quite poorly using the V Plug, even with the reduced recoil spring. Any advice here would be appreciated. My ports appear to be in good order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agro 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 With the stock puck or with the GOUSA twister puck and on setting 4 for the largest gas, I still get occasional FTE with Federal low brass from wally mart. I was thinking after Pauly's polishing job, maybe it'll help. Maybe not... I'm down to test one out. I shoot bout once a month or so and 200+ shells a session as my buddies use my firearms too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mephis 82 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) With the stock puck or with the GOUSA twister puck and on setting 4 for the largest gas, I still get occasional FTE with Federal low brass from wally mart. I was thinking after Pauly's polishing job, maybe it'll help. Maybe not... I'm down to test one out. I shoot bout once a month or so and 200+ shells a session as my buddies use my firearms too. A dremel and some cratex wheels is really all you need to do a polish job, and with cratex there's not much risk of hurting anything. Profiling is pretty easy and hard to mess up unless you go crazy, if you're scared of profiling everything then yea of course go with Pauly. Cratex will certainly de-bur and polish everything up like a mirror in a hurry. It's insanely useful for about anything, even using it with your hands it makes doing a trigger job on about any gun a breeze. Edited March 22, 2011 by Tombs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Agro 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 With the stock puck or with the GOUSA twister puck and on setting 4 for the largest gas, I still get occasional FTE with Federal low brass from wally mart. I was thinking after Pauly's polishing job, maybe it'll help. Maybe not... I'm down to test one out. I shoot bout once a month or so and 200+ shells a session as my buddies use my firearms too. A dremel and some cratex wheels is really all you need to do a polish job, and with cratex there's not much risk of hurting anything. Profiling is pretty easy and hard to mess up unless you go crazy, if you're scared of profiling everything then yea of course go with Pauly. Cratex will certainly de-bur and polish everything up like a mirror in a hurry. It's insanely useful for about anything, even using it with your hands it makes doing a trigger job on about any gun a breeze. That sounds nice and I'm sure I could do it, as I am pretty competent. But I dont care to spend the time, $100 isnt a ton of $ to me and above all, people swear by Paulys work. So he has had all my parts since last Monday and I expect to have them back in a week or so. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cc raider 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Is there a way to "clean" things up with out ending up with a mirror finish on the bolt/carrier? I don't care for the flashy-ness to been seen. Thsnks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I think my saiga 12 would cycle a lot better with a double stack mag. I'm just saying. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 I think my saiga 12 would cycle a lot better with a double stack mag. I'm just saying. My problems would require lots of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unearthlyevil 2 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Mike, I forgot to mention in my post above, I am definitely willing to give one of your pistons a try. Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scatillac 22 Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 Dang, the one time that I wish my gun didnt cycle. Cycles federal fine, still havent tried winny. I put in an order for one of your stainless beauties though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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