zakmatthews 14 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) Is it even possible for the government to take all of our guns away? Because as far as I understand, my guns are not registered to me, since they were purchased in either Oklahoma or Missouri, both of which don't federally register guns. Many of them were purchased from private sellers with cash. So, suppose they want to take our guns . . . how do they know we have them? If I got a knock on my door, couldn't I just tell the ATF or whatever that I don't own guns? Edited October 28, 2008 by zakmatthews Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why don't you just ask them? They're reading this now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Do you recall how they tracked down gun owners in the movie 'Red Dawn'? And there are many other ways............... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zakmatthews 14 Posted October 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 I just don't see how it's possible to follow a cash trail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Short word? Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Your spineless neighbors will squeal like little pigs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 We have no guns. We sold them ALL to some guy in an Obamma shirt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mstranglr 9 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Osama's first term; probably an AWB, but not much else because he needs to get re-elected. He will concentrate more on "spreadin' the wealth" during his first term, and with half the voting population not working, this will be a big hit with the retiring baby boomers and the tens of millions living on govt subsities. Maybe even a missle strike or two to prove to the US sheeple that he can be tough on terrorist. He will get re-elected. Then the second term - Oh shit, this is where its gonna get bad. Hidden gun safes and burried ammo caches in the backyard. The realization that the white male is the root of all evil. Cutting ties with Isreal while simultaneously backing its enemies. American intigration into Muslim culture and law. Officially rendering the constitution outdated and obsolete by utilizing supreme court puppets. Opressing those who offend liberal ideology. School indoctrinated children taught that they are not individuals, but part of the new great society. Health care system with 6 month to 1 year waits and DMV-style service. 20% unemployment because many people are better off not working. A new form of affirmative action that FORCES minorities into unqualified positions by threat of government business seisure or imprisonment. End of tax exemptions for most Christian churches because of descrimination for refusal to marry gay couples. Renewing the ranks of military and law enforcement with aims of "protecting the people from themselves". Labor unions will overpower and control companies, which will fold, become govt owned, and the union will become the government. Controls set in place to ensure that a free and fair election will never occur again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 (edited) The first step will be gun registration. If you own a gun(s) they must be registered ,.. all of 'em otherwise you will be in violation of the law, owning unregistered firearms,.. So let's say you register 1/2 of them and hide the rest, and sell the other 1/2 but they are nearly impossible and expensive to sell because of all the new rules and registration required. ok anyway so then some shit goes down, (like those stupid skin head nazis in Tenn) and all the libs start crying and hugging their trees and ,... well ,....what do you know,. a new law, and it passes,... that all guns/Firearms of types A, C, D, E and F, are to be rounded up by the police FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY. Leaving you with your .177 air rifle and BB Gun, and type B. except the half you hid and did not report which you have been shooting off and on for a while now,... hence every one knows about, including those pesky neighbors,.. unless it's burried in a plastic tube,.. down yonder,.. where there is a lot of metal detector chaf,... One other thing, when the feds, or the police come a knocking, they are your brothers, maybe sisters,.. or cousins who live here in the US too, and they are just following orders,.. wink wink could there really ever be enough "Agents" to confront the rightful gun owners in the US and "Take" Their rightful property? I don't think so.. would soldiers from KY shoot to kill their cousin who was standing for his/her right to bear arms?? and I am not talking about a bunch of stoned hippies having sex in the park,... OOOhh , and what desert dog said too! Edited October 28, 2008 by Gas Giant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 Be kind of hard to explain all those sounds of gunfire people hear coming from your property. Surround sound Dolby still doesn't sound *THAT* authentic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zakmatthews 14 Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Desert Dog, your scenario sounds like the pre-apocalypse . . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evildog 20 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Is it even possible for the government to take all of our guns away? Because as far as I understand, my guns are not registered to me, since they were purchased in either Oklahoma or Missouri, both of which don't federally register guns. Many of them were purchased from private sellers with cash. So, suppose they want to take our guns . . . how do they know we have them? If I got a knock on my door, couldn't I just tell the ATF or whatever that I don't own guns? KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK.............Were here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Ya'll don't scare all the kids before bedtime, they'll have bad dreams about the boogie man, but YES, it'll happen, maybe not in my life time, but more like my grandkids, after they have been conditioned with all the brainwashing BS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 anyone catch the e4473 stories lately....nice big fat database of 4473 forms... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kg4chm 0 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Be kind of hard to explain all those sounds of gunfire people hear coming from your property. Surround sound Dolby still doesn't sound *THAT* authentic. Thats one of the many reasons I do not shoot on my own property..............too many nosy people around. People that post things about what guns they have or how many etc............not a good idea. No one knows about how many of or what kind of guns I own or have owned in the past but me. Not even close family members. You just never know who will squeal or how the govt will figure out what you have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE_HUNTER 2 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I still remember a Samurai movie where a samurai had to turn his sword into the Socialist Japanese police. In front of the cops, he jams the blade into the ground and karate chops the blade into splinters. Don't let the bastards have a chance to keep your shit and use it on others! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I would like to think that he would have studied his history and realizes that an AWB will yield him the same results it got Clinton. Basically, the dems would lose the congress and the senate. He may try it though, because the man is arrogant and thinks only his ideas are worth anything. If he does try it, I expect for their to be litigation like never before brought by the NRA and all the other Gun Rights groups. I believe that the established old guard in Washington, even though they may be a majority of democrats, will advice Obama not to mess with this unless he wants to guarantee himself and his party one litigious and non-productive term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The Blue Dogs will bite him in the ass. They know that another AWB or worse will cost them their next election. And that is only 2 years away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigj480 203 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I would like to think that he would have studied his history and realizes that an AWB will yield him the same results it got Clinton. I would like to think that he would have studied his history and realized that gun control basically doesn't work, but it's obvious that he didn't. I would like to think that he would have studied the constitution and realized how important the 2A is, but that isn't the case either. There will be an attempt to pass a new and "improved" AWB and it is likely to succeed and be signed into law. If there are any lawsuits filed by pro-2A groups, lets hope it happens before anybody new is appointed to the SCOTUS. A lawsuit over an AWB will likely not be their biggest priority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MD_Willington 11 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 If the dems have a super majority, nothing will bite them in the butt... also look at it this way, they may do increments taxes environment rules i.e. lead ammo bad for the planet components require licensing in quantity primers classified as destructive devices or special devices requiring licensing storage laws restrict areas where you can use firearms restricted areas i.e X feet within certain structures etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunfixr 76 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I suppose that since everybody's asking if they can take your guns away, you have already decided to turn them in. Otherwise, you wouldn't have to ask. So, my answer is, they can't take my guns away, at least while I'm alive. Nowhere in the Constitution does it say "shall not be infringed, except by the whim of government." It says simply, "shall not be infringed." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WardenWolf 6 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) I'll put it this way: there's a LOT of BBs scattered throughout my backyard from my younger days practicing with a BB gun. That yard would light up like a Christmas tree to a metal detector. I've got a full carton, too, if I ever need to spread more. Also: There is NOTHING wrong with eliminating lead ammo once a similarly inexpensive substitute is available. Right now the best candidate seems to be bismuth. Bismuth is non-toxic, but is almost the exact same weight and hardness as lead. Effectively this means you get the same performance of lead bullets and shot. The same fragmentation, the same range. Whether bismuth is available in sufficient quantity to make it cheap and viable is another question. If they sold it cheaply, I'd have no problems with switching over to bismuth ammo. Edited October 31, 2008 by Mike the Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinsen 86 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Nothing will be as cheap as lead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brd 1 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) The English have a message for you .And for the love of teet listen to them! No embeds so paste the above. Edited October 31, 2008 by brd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sovbez 11 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 The first step will be gun registration..... Is there no registration in the US now??!! I believed that filling the forms in a gun shop was the registration. Then you are lucky, Americans. In Russia we pass thorough such a long way towards owing a gun, that most of Russians have no desire to own a gun at all. Every 5 years we must bring all our weapons to police department for re-registration, and every 5 years we must confirm our mental health in hospital. In police department there is the database of all gun owners and the samples of bullet and shell for each rifle (they make the sample shooting during registration). But the most funny is the taking all rifles away from owners before arrival of a govenment person to a province (after depature they return the rifles). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 The first step will be gun registration..... Is there no registration in the US now??!! I believed that filling the forms in a gun shop was the registration. Then you are lucky, Americans. In Russia we pass thorough such a long way towards owing a gun, that most of Russians have no desire to own a gun at all. Every 5 years we must bring all our weapons to police department for re-registration, and every 5 years we must confirm our mental health in hospital. In police department there is the database of all gun owners and the samples of bullet and shell for each rifle (they make the sample shooting during registration). But the most funny is the taking all rifles away from owners before arrival of a govenment person to a province (after depature they return the rifles). I pray we never have it even half as bad as that. My condolences to you my Russian friend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evildog 20 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 The first step will be gun registration..... Is there no registration in the US now??!! I believed that filling the forms in a gun shop was the registration. Then you are lucky, Americans. In Russia we pass thorough such a long way towards owing a gun, that most of Russians have no desire to own a gun at all. Every 5 years we must bring all our weapons to police department for re-registration, and every 5 years we must confirm our mental health in hospital. In police department there is the database of all gun owners and the samples of bullet and shell for each rifle (they make the sample shooting during registration). But the most funny is the taking all rifles away from owners before arrival of a govenment person to a province (after depature they return the rifles). sorry to hear this, wonder how long till something like this hits home? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Determine what kind of world you want to live in, weigh the value of life, and react accordingly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 All this talk lets me know that I made the right decision selling all my evil black guns! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If you think it can't happen then google "Gun control England" or "Gun control Canada" or "Gun control Australia". If you think it can't happen here in the U.S. talk to anyone from California, New York, Massachussetts or Maryland. Ask gun owners in New Orleans if they recieved their guns back yet from the illegal confiscation after Katrina. Biden pronounced himself during one of the debates that "...I invented the last Assault Weapon Ban.." and "...I was dissapointed the AWB was not continued!" Pelosi is a major antigun fanatic and imagine if she is Majority Leader of a overwhemingly Democratic Senate. It's probably a better question as to when it will happen if Obama/ Biden make it to the White House. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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